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TRUCE QUESTION ... please reply
WanderingBuddha wrote
at 2:04 PM, Tuesday March 3, 2009 EST
Gurgi and I were playing on a 100 table .. he said he'd leave me alone early which (I was stronger than him at the time) let me build up properly and be unassailable 1st. It also allowed me to kill the enemies around him and let him build. At the end of the game he asked me to attack a flagged player so he could get 2nd. He had approximately the same terr and dice and a connection to this player. Should I have attacked? Because I didn't and he gave up instead of fighting and now thinks we're PGE. Was it a defacto truce? Any opinions?

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StormLord wrote
at 3:08 PM, Tuesday March 3, 2009 EST
Christmas day WW1 did the British form an alliance with Germany and play a game of football? Or was it a ceasefire?
Gurgi wrote
at 3:11 PM, Tuesday March 3, 2009 EST
i don't celebrate christmas...
Mushu Porker wrote
at 3:23 PM, Tuesday March 3, 2009 EST
Ceasefire=friendly=I'm cool=truce=alliance. Just saying, "green?" can equal a truce and get you countered. If you are truced and your truce partner helps you get 1st by 1) attacking your enemies or 2) not attacking you, then he deserves your loyalty. Period. If you don't honor your commitment to your truce partner over a flag thrown up by someone else, then you are a dishonorable asshat.

Just my $.02.
iwillscrewyou wrote
at 3:25 PM, Tuesday March 3, 2009 EST
you don't celebrate christmas!!?

GURGI IS A SATANIST!!!
or a jew?
or muslim.
jehovah's witness?
or maybe buddhist...
taoist...
hindu??
atheist?
or maybe he saw mommy kissing santa claus as a kid and is scarred for life.


and stormlord... the next time we celebrate christmas mid-fucking game on kdice i will agree that a ceasefire is not an alliance. otherwise, you're full of shit and you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
StormLord wrote
at 3:39 PM, Tuesday March 3, 2009 EST
"Ceasefire=friendly=I'm cool=truce=alliance"

Then what do I say if two 8 stacks are facing each other, stopping both of us expand? I want him to go west and me east. I don't want to award him a flag and I don't want him to award me one. I just want to stop the 8 v 8 stalement.
Mushu Porker wrote
at 3:53 PM, Tuesday March 3, 2009 EST
If you agree to work with a player to your mutual benefit, that constitutes a truce. If you do that in the presence of reasonably intelligent players, they should counter you immediately, which makes it you 2 against the rest of the board. Given that truth, the best way is to try to truce simply by your behavior. Silently demonstrating good neighborliness is the best truce possible. These tacit truces are absolutely the most satisfying kind around. At the same time, they lead to the plethora of "omg pga!" accusations from the less sophisticated players out there.

Again, any time that you work with a player to your mutual benefit, whether that behavior is clarified verbally or not, you have a truce. And if you have a truce, then you have both created a mutual obligation to help each other against the opposing players. The fact that a higher percentage of upper level players respect this credo is one of the factors that make upper level play so much more enjoyable and the sad truth that most lower table players don't recognize this is what makes it so irritating to play the lower tables.
Dancerr wrote
at 3:54 PM, Tuesday March 3, 2009 EST
I would fight for place and dont beg 1st to fight for me. Gurgi is a lame player, dont respect flags, backstab etc... No wories WB. You did well...
StormLord wrote
at 4:42 PM, Tuesday March 3, 2009 EST
The keywords you use are mutual benefit, they are both benefiting from not attacking each other. They can both expand and become stronger. It is a rational thing to do.

What benefit is it to them to then award a flag?

And how would I, or the rest of the board, or him for that matter, know he would be rewarded with 2nd? If we don't know that how can anyone counter?

MadHat_Sam wrote
at 5:03 PM, Tuesday March 3, 2009 EST
Dance with the one that brought you.

StormLord wrote
at 5:10 PM, Tuesday March 3, 2009 EST
So they will bring you next game? Game to game favour?
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