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Leek's failure to assess a game properly/ leeks non existent integrity AND Mr K's Greediness (as an example how tournaments get usually messed up)
moondust wrote
at 4:01 PM, Thursday January 22, 2009 EST
Okay Leek,

Now I know why people call you a retard, a weak and dirty player, a cheat, an unpleasant person or all other kinds of negative things. (I won't mention more, because I'm sure you already heard them all)


Look at this kcommunity:

At the final table of the tournament, I had an amazing restack in round 3 (an 8 or a 7) next to Mr K. I could have killed him easily, and he knew it, since he started to do the usual "flirting" (which was practically begging for me not killing him).

Leek on the other hand had by far the largest base, which was, however, in the middle.


(As it is my habit in tournaments when I am in a comanding position, I take the initiative and try to sort a complicated board as soon as it becomes clear who might get the top 3/4 places and when I don't have a chance for 1st anymore. I usually tell the guy with the largest base that he has 1st and another person who looks helpful to me, that he has 3rd)

After one or two more turns, I realized that it would be best to give leek the game, because I was also very close to the middle. However, his base was twice as big as mine.
By then it was clear to me that I would get 2nd and Mr K. 3rd.

With leek accepting my vflag, I could expand and develop my base to find myself in a clear 2nd position.


Then Mr K. suddenly got very upset and proved himself to be a very greedy player. He was demanding me to let him pass and give him a shot at 1st. (He was north of me and due to me going south with my big stacks, he was able to take my small stacks in the north)
I told him, that those moves really pissed me off, but I had no chance but to give him his shot at 1st. Which meant that he would have to attack leek.

To cut a long story short: Leek screwed himself by making dumb moves and getting involved in all kinds of fights and ended up 3rd or 5th (I don't even remember anymore) and not in 1st what I wanted to give him ... Anyway... it was clear that Mr K. messed my whole nice plan up with his greediness and his obsession to take 1st.

Seriously, Mr K. you should have been glad that I didn't kill you earlier, you were asking me to be nice and as soon as the danger disappeared your unnecessary ambition came back.
For the future, I advice you to be more modest. I actually advice all players to be more modest and whine less when they can't get 1st.

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IN THE NEXT GAME... With only 4 players left, I was clearly in 2nd position and (again) leek had clearly the biggest base. This time, I actually flagged 2nd (no vflag) to leek.
Leek accepted that flag and after fucking up all the other players to one or two lands, he killed me so I ended up 4th and was out of the tournament.

Leek's explanation: You promised me to get 1st, last game but you allowed Mr K to take it from me.


I didn't say much more and left the table, because people were spamming the chatbox and I think leek wouldn't have cared too much in that situation. So I left.


Leek, you always talk about competitive integrity and shit. I ask you: where was your integrity in that game? Where was it???

You were being a vindictive bitch when you didn't even have the right to be one, because it was not my fault that you threw away your 1st in the game before.

You have been around for ages, yet you fail to assess a game properly and then you are being an asshole.

Either stop talking about integrity or just commit yourself to being a douchbag.

I was probably one of the last people who trusted you (because started playing in March last year). But just continue like this and you will find yourself being abandonned by everybody... even the 7500 noobs kdice has.

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poker*legend wrote
at 7:03 PM, Thursday January 22, 2009 EST
stop wasting forum space
MadWilly wrote
at 7:25 PM, Thursday January 22, 2009 EST
2 things to much i will add to this.
1st leek is a douchebag for straight 2 years now if you fail to realize that thats your fault alone moondust.
2nd you lose. you got this wrong in so many ways i don't even bother to start explaining you why.

Junge komm mal klar. du kannst nich von jedem spieler erwarten, dass er deinen ansprüchen an diplomatie und fairness entspricht und wenn er es nicht tut ist das solang er sich an die regeln hält ganz allein dein problem.

MW
MrMcCartney wrote
at 8:40 PM, Thursday January 22, 2009 EST
I've only watched Leek play 1 game in its entirety and he showed himself to be a distrustful greedy bullying farmer. And best of all - denying any of it!
Leek Step wrote
at 9:08 PM, Thursday January 22, 2009 EST
kreuz you had 4 lands i had 8 when moon offered me first. Then he let you eat 4 lands from him and split him and he didnt even bother to connect through all the short stacks you had.
fcuku wrote
at 2:04 AM, Friday January 23, 2009 EST
either way, i came out on top, sort of... thanks to a 'misclick' =D and then leek being pissed off at moon, i got 2
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 3:18 AM, Friday January 23, 2009 EST
leek, that is justplain wrong, i connected to 4 first turn and then i took 2 more, and he might have offerd you first then. secondly, i acctually restacked and kept up with moon, exept for one turn, and at that turn he could have killed me, yes, but there where many uncertainties, like sams equally big stack next to moons.

and i dont know why you are complaining, YOU GOT 2n
StormLord wrote
at 6:17 AM, Friday January 23, 2009 EST
Wait....he flags 2nd and is complaining he didn't get 1st? I don't understand.
mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 7:24 AM, Friday January 23, 2009 EST
no, he flagged 2nd and complains that wrong guy got 1st
obscurehero wrote
at 8:17 AM, Tuesday January 27, 2009 EST
I'm just impressed you took the time to write this much.
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