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The Way Kdice is Meant to be Played!
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arizonan wrote
at 1:35 PM, Tuesday November 11, 2008 EST
Get this!
Was playing with a player who will not be named (oh ok, twist my arm, it was Honyo). So, picture this: Blue was in 1st. Yellow was flagged for 3rd, and I had just taken enough territories to be able to flag for the same position. Honyo was in 2nd. He flags (NOTE THIS) and then takes two of yellow's territories to move right next to me. I flag for 3rd, expecting to fight yellow. Honyo takes a territory, cutting me off from yellow. And then he proceeds to gobble me up. He says he's doing it to protect yellow who flagged before I did. Honor and all that. I kick up the usual fuss trying to get blue to intervene so that I can fight yellow for 3rd, rather than be gobbled up by Honyo. Blue sits it out. Honyo is flagged for 2nd, so Blue can do nothing. After all there's a flag up. By the time I have been eaten and digested, purple, who is bigger than yellow, has flagged 3rd too. Honyo is still flagged for 2nd, but is now in first place because of the territories he has taken from me. He says purple should reflag. Again, this is to protect yellow, who after all was the first to flag 3rd. Honor, again. Sadly, blue lies between Honyo and purple. So Honyo's in a tough place. How can he live up to his honor and protect yellow's third place flag? Here's where it gets good. To protect yellow's flag, Honyo decides to ignore his own. He attacks blue, rolling *very* well and taking a bunch of territories. Basically he rolls over blue, who is forced to flag and rips into purple. Purple fights back, but blue's luck is bad. He flags 2nd, but isn't even able to hold that. The final result is that blue reflags for 4th. Yellow gets 3rd, and purple gets 2nd. HONYO, WHO HAD FLAGGED FOR SECOND, GETS FIRST!!!! So get the logic? Yellow's third place flag is important enough that it's worth upending the game. So much so that Honyo is willing to ignore his own 2nd place flag. Oh, the sacrifices we make for honor.... Now, obviously, this turned out pretty bad for me (though not as bad as it did for blue). BUT I LOVE IT. This makes Kdice so much more interesting! Think of how cool it would be if the culture changed so that flags could easily be disregared. It would certainly add gobs of frisson to the later stages of the game. Certainly beats players whining about respecting flags and so on... So whaddya guys think? |
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bcmatteagles wrote
at 7:57 AM, Thursday November 13, 2008 EST Honyo knew what he was doing all along, that "protect yellow's flag business is pure nonsense. Just a way for him to accumulate more lands and later punish the first place player and get them to flag.
This is a classic kdice move that is commonly referred to as "getting das'd" Because dasfury was the first to master the technique at the 10k tables last month. Note to those in 1st place players if you don't want this to happen either punish the 2nd place player with threats that you will give them last place by interfering with the lower level fights or take a land from 2nd for each one they take from the smaller players. Any 1st place player that gets das'd has it coming because they didn't have enough control over the table. |
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mr Kreuzfeld wrote
at 8:05 AM, Thursday November 13, 2008 EST well, to me honest, blue could easily have avoided this, buy being the strong man, tellin honyo not to attack and and arizonan to flag 3rd ASAP, and if he would not do it let honyo attack. WHILE protecing himself keeping honyo at less that 10 terrs
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arizonan wrote
at 5:27 PM, Thursday November 13, 2008 EST right on...
so time to start playing "das-style"!!! |