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How do you respond to "advice"?
JDizzle787 wrote
at 1:25 AM, Friday October 17, 2008 EDT
-How do you respond to "advice"?


After just visiting a 2500 table, I was reminded of something I can't stand, and having been around the block on kdice quite a bit, I have heard it a lot on any level of table: people telling others how to play their game, during the game. Talking strategy in the forums or even in a truce is fine with me, but I honestly can't stand it when someone tells me or another person where to go or what rolls will work, or who to attack.



Now, I may have just written my epitaph for getting up above 2,500 points, but It bites my ass and has always gotten em when someone says "8v6 red" or "teal, cut him", varying in degrees based upon their participation or what point it is in the game. For example, if you're not in the game, my policy is shut the hell up about people playing and what to do. I've heard it from CoMik and just saw Montecarlo (not saying it's only them and that it's for any specific reason) and many others shout out to people what to do and which rolls to make.



Now, of course you have a partial say or stake in a game you may have just dropped out of, or it be a "polite" request (I am guilty of this; asking a player to not focus on hitting me or to one-hit me), but blatant moves and decisions should be left up to who is in the game.



Now, now, I'm sure this may ruffle feathers of many players who just do this of habit or for cheerleading, but I find it extremely rude. I mean, if you're telling a guy I'm contending for second against to cut me or hold out against me to let me lose my dice, not only will I catch on, it's adding insult to injury if I am some sort of "thing" to be taken down.


It also has a negative effect on the guy performing the action called out- how embarrassing is it to end up listening to someone on the sidelines tell you what to do just to win? can't you do it yourself?



I refrain that it's the strict "do this red; cut him green, brown and yellow should truce" kinda crap that irritates me. I am always open to a quick suggestion of another option of attack from a fellow kdicer, but never blatant hand-holding that really ruins the experience in some heated games. And again, I may not make any friends with this, but regardless of my score it frustrates me to no end.




So, whether you read my complaint or not, how do you respond to "advice" form the sidelines? Embrace it, reject it?

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CoMik wrote
at 1:58 AM, Friday October 17, 2008 EDT
Jdizz. You should cut red with the 5v5 now. Go ftw. Don't wait for a second. One of my favorite things to do a year ago was to go around the lower tables and direct a game. Telling each person what to do. Or to pick a player and get them the win. Finely honing the skills necessary in the game. It's a game, and /mute is a beautiful tool.
kam|k2 wrote
at 6:51 AM, Friday October 17, 2008 EDT
Yeah comik, i love to do that sometimes too, and its still just too funny.

@Jdizz: just ignore or mute?
montecarlo wrote
at 7:09 AM, Friday October 17, 2008 EDT
the funny thing is how intoxicated comik was last night.

anyways, you gotta realize how much ego there is at the top tables. actually, you already know. i have so much ego flowing out of my ears, that i must either 1) command the table how to make the obvious moves, 2) bitch at them for making the horribly unstrategic moves, or 3) get pissed when others outcommand me, and then i go and whine like a little bitch in the forums. oh wait, i only do two of those.

basically, there are two reasons to command the table: 1) to see everyone elses personality, and how it could match with/against yours in future games. 2) educate some noobs on what strategy works most efficiently. most of the time they are happy to get an outside opinion.

and personally, i dont have a reputation of having the best table foresight concerning individual plays. however, when im in the gallery, most of my peers agree that if you dont trust my foresight as far as trucing goes, then you will not place as high as your potential in the game. i try not to be too cocky while telling it like it is, but i still try to insert enough cock to keep everyone aroused.
wishbone wrote
at 7:49 AM, Friday October 17, 2008 EDT
I didn't read past the part where you started to say "attack teal" or whatever.

This thread is also stupid.

The peanut gallery is the best thing about this game.

So shut the fuck up.
montecarlo wrote
at 8:01 AM, Friday October 17, 2008 EDT
thats a pretty fuckin sweet lookin 6-series there wish.
bcmatteagles wrote
at 8:02 AM, Friday October 17, 2008 EDT
As an unabashedly proud member of the peanut gallery I must say JDizzle787, you're an idiot. I mean is your post actually serious? Do you really get that upset when someone says "8v8" "CUT" "BAM" etc. Get over it. Seriously.

More often then not the peanut gallery is a huge source of hilarious side comments and amusing suggestions. If you can't appreciate that then you take this game WAY TOO SERIOUSLY. Who cares if someone says all that stuff and if it was a move you were already going to make. If it bothers you that much, that's why Ryan implemented the mute feature.

PS - http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2354/2947179816_aec701f2b3_o.jpg
wishbone wrote
at 8:04 AM, Friday October 17, 2008 EDT
Just got some lighted window switches, 6 new spark plugs, a new blower motor, and I'm gonna wash and wax it this weekend,

thanks monte :)
Cal Ripken wrote
at 8:17 AM, Friday October 17, 2008 EDT
oooh lighted window switches.
that's a panty-dropper right there ladies and gentlemen.
montecarlo wrote
at 8:29 AM, Friday October 17, 2008 EDT
heh, meagles, totally agree. and it works both ways. i receive what i dish out more frequently than i give i think. on several occasions, ive had the table under my control while playing, people are about to start flagging to me, then in troops the peanut gallery on their lol cavalry, and start shouting things to the other players like, MONTES MANIPULATING YOU, OMG WHY ARE YOU FLAGGED TO HIM? 4v1 HIM, AND HE WILL LOSE, BECAUSE HE IS A CHEATING ASSHOLE FARMER BITCH!!! LOLOLOLOL. its when the other players see the 'lololol' that they realize this is all fun, and then they all turn on me and give me last, while the peanut gallery revels in their power. in the end, i lose up to a couple thousand points, shrug it off, and laugh at how i got tooled by the gallery. i dont whine about it, i can see the humor, and i have learned how to appreciate that in life.
JDizzle787 wrote
at 12:38 PM, Friday October 17, 2008 EDT
Wow, I almost got exactly what I was looking for! I really love all this negativity! Srsly!


Really, this is an honest quip of mine. I don't give a fuck who it is telling me to do so, and like I said, ti's not just the "peanut gallery", people on the 0 tables do it and I tell them to shut up too. I also said I don't mind a couple comments, but more extreme versions are extremely rude.


Am I serious with this? hell yeah. I sit in and play the game to play it like I want to play it, that's how high my ego goes. No one's to my style if I have any at all, why the hell do I have to listen to someone with too much time on their hands boss things around? Use the mute feature? OK, that's like sticking your fingers in your ears so you don't hear something your mom's yelling at you; it's a pathetic response.


I'm not telling people to stop, they'll always do it. I'm just explaining that regardless of who it is, bossyness is genuinely irritating.

Yeah wish, the peanut gallery is awesome, it makes games more irritating, but this is nothing against one set group of people. This is about a habit that I find annoying and I really wanted to find out if anyone else shares the same sentiments. So far, I've just got a reason why those who admit to it do it, and that's fine. Maybe I'm just a crazy bastard.



And seriously, one of the few things I'm actually serious about is one of the stupidest things I've posted? You don't have to go far to find somehting dumber.


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