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CORRUPTION AND COLLUSION AT THE HIGHET LEVEL
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leekstep wrote
at 9:45 PM, Monday February 11, 2008 EST
It wouldnt surprise anyone who plays kdice regularly that the game is frought with collusion and corruption.
Some have called it a normal progression of game theory, an inevitible evolution of social players trying to compete against foes who cheat, etc. The evidence I am about to reveal cleary illustrates that collusion, team play, PGAs etc are not just employed by rogue players beyond the watchful eye of the site administrator. What you are about to read shows that the creator of the site actually recognizes and tolerates cheating by players at the top of the standings, and even further you will see that Ryan demands that montecarlo effectively "fix" the final standings. Ryan unfairly adjusted my score down by 219,000pts to match the score of rnd, and also changed mikeypoo's score to match rnd. Ryan enacted this punishment for committing the offense of being friends with rnd and said so in chat. This communication from Ryan to montecarlo is just astounding, and it shows that Ryan PREMEDITATED his sanctions against me for being friends with rnd, and Ryan demanded that montecarlo and Dasfury collude to score enough points to avoid the image of impropriety: >>Ryan's first message to montecarlo>> Ok, you have 2 options: 1)Prove that you're over the whole cable/cheating thing and let the top 3be without you or Dasfury. It looks bad that you hated leek and win once he's gone - ie you need your enemies banned to win. 2) You obviously have friends that are easy to play with (its not just luck as you say) and you have gained a lot of points as a result. If you decide you want the win then I'll be doing a friend adjustment to the top 25.At the moment you have around 50k that would be adjusted. You still seem to have some connection with the old cabal group. I'm very serious about removing each of these players unless they remove themselves first. I know you want to win but your reputation is somewhat tarnished and a win won't be respected unless you clean up the past. Hope this makes sense. >>>> It is quite obvious that Ryan is obsessed with rnd (beyond adjusting my score down by about 219,000pts to match that of rnd. The following communication is almost funny, but it really is pathetic: >>Ryan's second message to montecarlo>> Every connection with rnd/int has to die. This month is the official death of the old cabal. I finally have some time to police properly now that my book is done. You're telling me you're done with that and I can have a bit of faith in that however the rest of the players at KDice deserve more than faith. If they see you win they will think rnd/int or others helped and the cycle continues. I hope you can see this is much more important to me than allowing you a fair win. I'm glad you'll do #1. I know its a sacrifice but it's important to the death of the cabal. You can even make it public that you don't want to win to showthat you're not a cheater and not part of the old cabal. The upside for you is that you'll be able to play in future months with much less persecution. #2 wouldn't be good for you and would be very bad for das too since stats show you alone have helped him get 50k - he would drop quite a bit. People who rely on friends more would get hurt more. I would rather take a preventative measure (ie not allow seating with high correlation friends) than this. The common thing in both options is that you would not be 1st. I know it sucks, but just like you guys did quite a bit of social manipulation to screw around Ihave to do some to fix the damage - I believe I have a license to be somewhat unfair here. >>>> Yes, you read it correctly, Ryan admits that montecarlo and dasfury deserved at least 50,000 pt deductions in his estimation (dasfury just for the games he played with montecarlo). Anyway, kdice is a brilliant game but Ryan needs to change it. I'm glad he screwed me over and admitted it was unfair to screw me over, because I'd probably be wasting a lot more time on it than I am now. Just a big waste of time. |
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Cambria wrote
at 1:40 PM, Tuesday February 12, 2008 EST leek, sometimes its better just to let things go.
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SmokingHotBlonde wrote
at 2:10 PM, Tuesday February 12, 2008 EST leek, glad at least one person here hasn't tucked their tail between their legs just yet.
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r0n wrote
at 4:41 PM, Tuesday February 12, 2008 EST Ladies and gentleman, witness the nascent stages of mental illness.
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 6:04 PM, Tuesday February 12, 2008 EST Ignoring forum trolls makes them go away.
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biteme wrote
at 9:43 PM, Tuesday February 12, 2008 EST Where's the collusion? Sounds more like a dictatorship.
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MITT4PRES wrote
at 12:01 AM, Wednesday February 13, 2008 EST YES MONTECARLO is the worst, he pga'd with Pat last game and it was just horrible. Especially cause us new guys to the game would like to compete fairly, but just get rapped every time, doesn't matter if you are in first or second, they find a way to drain you until you are in last and won't let you flag or anything, just suck your points away, really makes the game less fun. I vote Montecarlo gets kicked out for sure
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MITT4PRES wrote
at 12:02 AM, Wednesday February 13, 2008 EST Montecarlo lacks integrity
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Big Jumblies wrote
at 12:19 AM, Thursday February 14, 2008 EST Mike_Mike: leekstep: so dont worry
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BatmanDan wrote
at 2:05 AM, Thursday February 14, 2008 EST i only started playin 2.5k this month and i have played 5 or 6 games and have never been fucked over or dumped into last...i actually think it happens more on the lower tables (in my experience).
A prime example of other players who are new(ish and done extremely well are, jeremy....only in his 5month of competeing and is looking at a 3rd top 25 trophy and he doesnt pga. I think if you play at the 2.5 and 10k tables u are vocal chat and take it as the fun game it is things tend to work out for u! Monte doesnt seem to pga in the games i have watched or played...he truces (his neighbour) very early on and it works...i was his neighbour yesterday and i got 2nd! In conclusion not as much cheating on the top tables as people think. (not saying there isnt any cause that wub b just naive!) |
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JulesDogg wrote
at 11:55 AM, Thursday February 14, 2008 EST The debate is getting as serious as Global Warming, Terrorism and Bird Flu.
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