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PGA is not cheating
shiggyman wrote
at 6:05 PM, Sunday December 9, 2007 EST
no no no pga not cheating not in rules not cheating

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integral wrote
at 2:44 PM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
oh wait... are we pga'ing in this thread?
cifdtruckie wrote
at 2:59 PM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
I, to, am here for a game of strategy - I also have a sense of honor, which causes me from deliberately deceiving.
rnd++ wrote
at 3:04 PM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
whatever i fold
cifdtruckie wrote
at 3:08 PM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Like a cheap tent...

Who's up next? Integral? I welcome all challengers...
JDizzle787 wrote
at 7:29 PM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Something I was just thinking about:

So far, Ryan has chosen to acknowledge PGAing as cheating recently. I'm not sure what his opinions on rnd and his group at the time of said corrupt games, but I do know this:
There was a time when PGA did not exist. Then, all of a sudden, in one forum post, one fellow informed us of the new term. in the months that immediately followed, heavy discussion about PGA ensued, along with a heavily updated forum list of PGAer's (which makes me think, cuz I accused bcmatteagles and integral of PGAing and they gave me shit for saying so, long before the rnd scandal...anywho)
But it was still an issue in the kdice community. Some took different stances on it, but we went on our way until...

Out of nowhere, it seems that there are accusations from leekstep and others as well as proxy cheating (allegedly) and all the chaos that ensued and now we have the abolished paupers defending themselves against the still divided community of kdice. Ryan now has his word in it, but it is not enough to quell the debate.

So, in reality, i think it's up to US, the kdice community of the world, to decide if rnd was wrong, or any PGA for that matter. Since it was a term/concept introduced by the members of kdice, the judgment of it's status is up to us.






Oh, and rnd, about what you said. You're right. I'm saying it's ok to PGA with your friends, siblings, and kdice acquaintances, and I'm upset that you won with your PGA glory.
But tell me this: did you ever sit in a game KNOWING you'd win with your mates at your side? Or was it all a random convenience , like "hey, soandso what's up? oh, hey,want to truce?" or even the sneakier silent truce. Did you have "malicious" intent?
sunvic wrote
at 7:44 PM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
i like your other picture better, change it back
Cascanueces wrote
at 7:50 PM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Umm... There once was a time when PGA did not exist?

The first record of PGA was six days after the game went public. It's on the forums people. Dec. 6 2006 or so.
JDizzle787 wrote
at 9:13 PM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
hmm, can you find me a link or the page (I'll try googling it) but I think I remember joining in earlyish december and there was a short period of time where all anyone complained about was animated gif. avatars being annoying, trucing, and bugs with the site. The earliest I'll give you from my point of view is two weeks after I joined.
JDizzle787 wrote
at 9:14 PM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
Aw, I like this one :) idk. can I have them all?:D
JDizzle787 wrote
at 9:33 PM, Tuesday December 11, 2007 EST
found this link (copy and paste it),
http://jayisgames.com/archives/2006/12/kdice.php

where it seems int he posts between December 21st and January 4th where it seems to be a noticeable problem. On Janauary 8th, a post is made on jayisgames where someone uses the words "pre game alliance"
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