"Win more games" is a great solution, but in theory, if you're playing with equally skilled players, you have a 1 in 7 chance of winning. Then add in the possibility of PGA's in your game and your chances are even worse.

BJ: I would like to disagree. There are far too many different abilities of people who play this game to be simply a 1/7 chance of winning. Look at John or Ali. They, in my opinion are the best players ever here. (Sorry Adam, but you are only one of the best, if not the best, because of the terror that you inspired, mainly in May.) I have yet to see anyone play better than they did. They could "see" multiple moves in advance. I admit, I am not as good as X LUCK X or integral, but I would say that there's a difference between me and the average player. But that said, I think BJ, that you're almost better than anyone on the 2k (or whatever the highest table is). I've played with you for months, and I think that you're one of the better players...

PGA doesn't really reduce your chances of winning to the extent that everyone things. A bad start can screw even the best players. If you look on the stats of the top 25, they have a large number of 4ths. Those are those 7th places that they saved, into 4ths. (Or at least with the old elo system). Your chances of winning are based upon how good you are. Those chances are dependant on your innate skill and your networking skills.

Those great players you mention lose 80% of their games. The medicore ones lose 86%.

It's hard to win.

It does seem like the new scoring system does not encourage people to try to win, and thats why I hate it. But I thinks its close to being a good system.

Perhaps score the game 50% old system and 50% new system. Like average the scores you would receive from each system?

Thanks Alan. Numbers speak more loudly.

well it doesn't seem that complicated to me. Take away some of a persons points every day they don't play.

I just realised that taking some points for not being active would discourage the use of alts because the person would have to maintain them daily.

An inactivity penalty is not going to make the scoring less frustrating in the case big jumblies mentioned.

Batman, I think jumblie's point is s/he wants to gain points playing with random skilled players instead of bad players or players who memorize each other's style and may as well be pga'ing via IM.

I guess what I'm trying to say is I dont like losing rank just because I played games, when NOT playing would have been better in some cases.

Makes you think "why did I bother playing, I got no where"