Like the new system but seem to have some issued with my mouse during the game which renders it usless meaning i can't flag or ttype anything. Any ideas what might be the problem either my machine of the new system ?

just some feedback i picked up whist in a game

Squeaker: What do people think about this new scoring?
Jammy41: i cant see the table......this computer is fucked
Squeaker: seems rather harsh to me
mozzer: it sucks
Snark: its shit
Snark: bring back the old scoring

Hey Ryan and everybody else - great work!

I totally appreciate all the good work you've been doing for the new system and in the past.

That being said, I'm not a big fan of the new system yet. That is mainly because I like the strategy part of the old system better than the gambling part of the new system.

But I'm willing to give it a try. Let's not express 'hate' or respectless comments on both sides of the great divide. I'd say: Play the new system for a month (and I will certainly do that), and then, maybe, we could come to a fair conclusion about what we like and what we don't like about the old and the new. And, hey, if Ryan (and a few others who put some work into it) think this is the way to go - let's do it. I might continue playing or not - but after all, it's their game and we should show some respect and gratitude ...

>Ben what the fuck do you hate so bad about the new system?

I don't hate it bad enoug to swear about, but...

I feel like it reduces the number of potentially succesful startegies. I'll be perfectly honest and admit that my personal preference of play styles has been affected, which is probably why I'm feeling driven away. I tend to play conservatively, making sure I survive the initial chaos even if I don't come out of it with large territories.

I used to be able to build on that small base, concentrate on slow expansion with minimal risk taking, and I did all right for myself. (I cracked the top 1000, not that it's a huge accomplishment).

Under the new system I haven't been able to maintain a positive score, on the test center or on the live servers. The new system favors constant and early expansion, and quick surrender if you can't quickly take the lead. Making a comeback simply doesn't seem to be rewarded.

The answer certainly could be "It's a new game, Ben, your style of play wasn't fun for everyone else. Adapt or die".

To which I'll respond, "Die, thank you" ;D

~Ben

Bump.
I really like this thread.
I like to read old threads.
I also like to speak in shorts sentences.
Like this.

"The new system removes strategy and promotes luck and aliances."

Compared to:

"the new version is more about being lucky"

I just find that funny.

The only thing left to fix is the lag.

all I'm finding is that when a bad roll comes up, the game for you more or less becomes a flagging strategy, so you lose less points. I WISH their was an idea to give each player more control over their fate in a roll, but that's never going to happen...is their any way to fight these unplanned losses? because some of us (me) are experienced but are too lazy to actually strategize a win :)

If I had found this game (this version)first off, I would have never have played it as much (at all) as I have for the past three months.
You can look at the people your playing with on any game, and there are ones with a "high" score (many congrats!) and ones with nothing. there seems to be one real strategy, before you could adopt one of many. Not that I need to be, but I'm not haveing as much fun.

This game is no longer fun, goodbye.

What I don't like about the new version.
By Apolloon

Mostly of the time I can't see the table so I have to refresh my page and loose my turn.
I just finished third and got minus ten.
You almost have to finish first to gain any points.
The second one can screw you at the end of the game AND flag afterwards when he becomes first!

Now i appreciate the effort you put into this but you screwed up by introducing this new game, I'm sorry to say that but I think many people would agree with me.
I'm out