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Acceptable Trucebreaking?
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Just that dude wrote
at 11:35 AM, Saturday July 21, 2007 EDT
I need some advise on what I should have done here...Scenario: There were 4 of us left on the table. 2 players were flagged(they were going to take 3rd and 4th). So me and the second place guy had a truce from about the middle of the game. I was in 1st he was in 2nd. So after the 3rd place guy saw that he had no chance to win, he flagged. I thought second place would flag after him and that would be it... Well the second place guy didnt want to flag to me and started attacking the flagged players to try to get first.(*Note he didnt attack me) I thought this was wrong so I started attacking him even though we had a truce.
I was just wondering if breaking truces is acceptable sometimes? Like with this guy he was clearly being an ass attacking flagged players and trying to steal first from me. |
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biteme wrote
at 9:19 AM, Sunday July 22, 2007 EDT You should have attacked 4th and 3rd first, for being weak and flagging. Then you should have attacked 2nd, but only until he had one stack. Then you should have toyed with him, always keeping him at one spot, until he flagged.
By employing these fiendly tactics, you can ensure good relations that will last not just for one game, but for your entire kdice career. Such teamwork is the foundation of a healthy and blossoming network pre-game truce players to choose from. Now there is another alternative, that while won't lead to short term gains, may lead to long term results. You could have chosen to PUKED (passionate unnecessary kdice enviromentally-sound death). According to historians, this style of kdice allows you to maintain dignity while ensuring your best chance at success both inside the kdice ring and outside in the so-called real world. What you do is nothing. Just like Seinfeld. Instead it's not a show about nothing, it becomes a game about nothing. You just keep sitting there while your truce partner gobbles up 3rd and 4th (which honestly needs to happen to rid the world of that lowly scum). Then once he/she has done that, an interesting condumdrum will occur. What does 2nd do? In science we call that a time chasing paradox. In the past, Sinth and FemmeFatale have chosen to take the high road via a self-imploading attack attack. What's an attack attack you ask? It's when you hit "end turn" repeatedly and continuously until your browser explodes. Personally I would have chosen to attack everyone. |
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biteme wrote
at 9:37 AM, Sunday July 22, 2007 EDT Dude, your quest (or is it thirst?) for fairness and benevolence has inspired me to form a new team - the Justice League of Kdice! Probably the first mission of the JLK will be to stop the evil Soda Pop Gang. Those thugs have been promoting the anti-green, anti-environment power company PG&E! For those of you not from California (or US, we are after all in a global universe), PG&E is the Dictator of Power.
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DUTCH APPLE PIE wrote
at 11:00 PM, Friday December 12, 2008 EST The player who was in 4th should have flagged 4th. If there were only 4 people left and the bottom two flagged, there would only be two people left.
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Serendipity wrote
at 1:43 PM, Saturday December 13, 2008 EST I look at it this way...if I truce with another player, to me it says that we are attempting to get 1st and 2nd together. If at the end we are first and 2nd, I do not flag 2nd if I am in second, and I dont expect him to flag if he is in second (unless there are overwhelming odds, like 20 territories to 5). Then we fight to see who gets first.
The example you set forth is slightly different than what I gave an answer for. With 2 flagged players still in, it is harder to give an answer. Someone could just flag 2nd to end it, however, as I said before, I prefer fighing to see who can get first. In this case, the fight could continue to where now one of the truce partners is lower than 3rd (or 4th) and can not even flag 2nd anymore. Therefore, it seems reasonable to take out the flagged players. The fairest way would be to take out the 4th flagged player first, therefore not ruining their position. But that might not be possible. As I was typing this, something started to not make sense. If the 2 others were flagged 3rd and 4th, they would have been out of the game, so I assume they were both flagged 3rd. Therefore, it is on them to either have one accept reflagging to 4th, or accept getting attacked. In your example, you said you expected your truce partner to flag 2nd and "that would be it". Doesnt sound that would have been it, there would still have been 2 players flagged for 3rd. So someone needed to attack someone. Or reflag 4th. Either way, you and your truce partner could still fight for 1st and 2nd. So it doesnt sound like your partner did anything wrong to me, nor did you. If he thought his best avenue to get first was to attack a flagged player, then so be it. As you know, 2 3rd place flags do not work, one has to go by some means. And if you thought your best way to get first was to force your partner to flag 2nd, then that sounds correct to me as well. The difference in your example here and my overall view of a truce resulting in 1st and 2nd place is that there must have been 2 3rd place flags. If that was the case, only two things could happen. Either let those two fight for 3rd, then they will be eventually be gone and you can now fight for first, or is that isnt reasonable (for example, one 3rd place is in between you and your partner and the other is located behind either you or your partner) then someone must make some type of decision. |
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AThousandYoung wrote
at 6:13 PM, Saturday December 13, 2008 EST If there were four players and one flagged fourth he would immediately be removed from the game. Then when one guy flagged third HE would be removed. The situation you describe is impossible.
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BAMMBI wrote
at 1:25 PM, Sunday July 12, 2009 EDT If you truce you should NOT be accepting flags from people outside your alliance. You broke the truce simply by accepting those flags and then compounded your dishonourable behaviour by attacking your ally.
Terrible. |
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greekboi wrote
at 10:36 PM, Sunday July 12, 2009 EDT who gives a fuck?!?! flip a coin or something who cares. do what you want. smoke weed. fuck bitches. get money
-greekboi |