Why didn´t you say "No"? What did you mean with "go up"?

Normally "go up" doesn´t mean "no", but may be it´s misunderstanding.

So I propose to speak a clear speech to avoid such misunderstandings.

my opinion:

he proposed a truce and you responded with "go up", that, to me and im sure 99% of top players means yes and i wont eat ur tail. so it was dirty in my eyes especially so if the guy who propsed the truce could have wiped u off the board with his 8 but thought a truce better his position and yours...

maybe this tactic worked for you this game but i can GUARANTEE, pull a stunt like that on 2k tables and u will not be there for very long FACT!

what i think would be interesting is for the player who you screwed came forward and voiced his opinion...

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Bad form in my book. I think you deliberately misled the player. You may not have technically said "yes", but your response was deceptive. Your first response to the truce proposal sounded like strategy on how to make the truce work, and counted as an agreement to me. There is no way he should have expected "Go up" to mean "Go up, and then I'll destroy your rear flank". If you meant no, say "no, go up", but I'm sure the reaction would have been different.

I've played a few games with 8*8 and he/she is a good trustworthy player.

COUNTER!

You did play dirty and hopefully you lost

Eikantas, to understand what happened, you need to be aware that trucing can be an extremely risky thing to do. If your truce is very obvious, the rest of the board will counter-truce and quickly destroy you, especially at the higher tables.

Because of the threat of a counter-truce, trucing has been an increasingly subtle and nuanced undertaking. You will almost never see anyone at the 2k tables say "Truce?" and "Yes" explicitly.. it just invites the counter.

Therefore, the more subtly you can make a truce, the better. You don't want anyone else to notice until it's too late. The best truces are completely unstated, formed based on action and careful observation. It's kind of like a dance.

So yes, generally speaking if you ask another player to do something, and they do it, you have created something of an obligation for yourself not to be treacherous. It doens't necessarily mean you'll NEVER attack them, but you definitely should not take any kind of immediate advantage of them. This is doubly true if the action taken was an alternative to them attacking you.

Sinth

I think you people are wrong. Why "Go up" must mean "yes, I will not eat your tail". It can mean "Go up, if you wanna save your biggest stack, because I' m ready to take all your lands". I will never agree with anyone, who will say it's dirty. It's not.

eikantas, you described what happened truthfully and I applauded that. you exposed yourself how dirty a player you are. 8*8 will never ‘go up’ unless he has a truce with you because that would leave him in a very dangerous position. but you know that and you misled him. what was worse is that you turn around and killed him in your next turn.

you exposed yourself as a dirty player in your first post; and you showed that you are an ignorant person in your second by maintaining that your were right.

enough said.

Eikantas,

Whether you agree or not, you didn't make it clear that you were not agreeing to the truce. You gambled that your cloudy response would allow you to attack a weak flank and get away with it. Apparently it was viewed by others as backstabbing, not "fair and smart diplomacy". If you do things that others will potentially view as backstabbing, whether you agree or not, you have to live with the consequences. If you can live with the consequences, then don't complain. If you can't, complaining isn't going to change anybody's minds.

Eikantas... i'll believe you that you didnt intend to mislead him, i mean none of us know each other, how do we know what you meant..but i will tell you, that even if you DIDNT mean to mislead him....it did happen, he was misled, and it very much would look liek you broke truce, whether you meant to or not is now irrelevant, i assume you understand by these responses that you did mislead him, and if you have any respect or integrity for other kdicers it will not happen again....