What would you like said? Obama won. The poor and uneducated voted for him in droves. The youth voted for him in droves. The bulk of the major taxpayers of the country will continue to pay for the Obamacare and extended government benefits. The one's who voted for Obama will get what they want. The rest will wait 4 more years for another try.

I'll continue to bust my ass and pay my bills like always. I think simply electing Romney would have loosened up the private sectors coffers, but in general a lot of business owners are scared of Obama's policies. I don't say this from conjecture, I talk to business owners in my job daily. The vast majority I speak to are anti-Obama and scared to death of what Obamacare is going to cost.

Quick predictions for the coming 4 years:

- Healthcare premium costs will rise by a minimum of 7% every year and potentially more once the full law goes into effect

- The US debt will easily eclipse $20 trillion

- Unemployment will remain above 7%

- We'll go to war with Iran


Anything else I'd say would sound like sour grapes. I'm not mad...but I am a bit sad.

Haven't healthcare premiums gone up significantly every year since 2000?

Yeah, but Obamacare is supposed to curb that....right?

I guess so, since it didn't happen with Romneycare either.

Thraxle you are one of the stupidest motherfuckers whose words I've ever had the misfortune of reading. There are just no words for how disconnected you are from reality, and I say that as someone who despises Obama and would never vote Democrat.

well that came out of nowhere haha

I'll take that as a compliment coming from someone with a screen name called Dr Jungy Brungus.

From the hardly informed German perspective, I'd say that 7% unemployment is not nice, but nothing that ruins a country. Exploading health costs is something most countries face.
War with Iran would be a major threat regardless who causes it. I am not sure though it could easily be avoided.
The fact that disturbed me over here is that the American deficit did hardly influence or interest the majority of the voters. From a poll I heared it was like place 10 of the important issues... That's a problem.

As for the ones that made the decission - that's the basic problem with democracy. The majority usually is not educated above average, or has an IQ above average and so on. An oligarchy or tyranny would be much better for society, if you had the right despot or group of leaders. The problem that can't be solved is the word "right" and thus Democracy with all its drawbacks is the best choice at hand. The USA has the electoral college (I hope that term is right) to correct mistakes of the easily mislead masses - I'm afraid it is not doing that though (or there is no misguidance, I am not in the position to judge about that).

I think we have enough information at this point to see that health insurance isn't a good that can be efficiently priced or regulated by the free market, the reason people buy insurance differs from the reason companies provide insurance too drastically. Insurance isn't the answer, outlaw health insurance and have people pay for the services they receive or go to some form of single payer system.

I've posted on this topic; if anyone is interested in reading here it is:

http://www.warsocial.com/forums/forums/1/topics/101