It should be a button to vote against pga and continuous alliance players to ban them.

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It should be a button to vote against pga and continuous alliance players to ban them.

Hi,

I was playing kdice 5 or 6 years ago. And the game was great. But after a while more and more pga players started to play, and killed the games joy with their backstabbings. Because of that I quitted, and did not played until this august. I turned back, but I see that now the situation is worse than in that times. Specially at the dom tables some players like to pga, kill everyone and than share the top points among them. This is not right. Yesterday I played in the 500 table, and after a day of missfortunes, finally I had a little chance, but I was quickly eaten up, by some 4 guys, who I know doing the same every time, and I loosed some 300 points because of these cheaters. It is not right that the dom tables to be ruled by this kinds of shit people who ruin the chance of others to have a fair play, and to have a chance to be in the top of the month, if they want. This is why I am planning to leave this game forever. Because the only way to be in the top at this game, because of these people, its doing the same they do. By cheating and making pgas, and monopolising the upper points tables of the game only for them, killing all those who are not in their pga club. This is why som many of them have many awards by their names, and so many good players cannot win the awards because of these people who pga and kill them in the dom tables. Myself also so many times when I played dom tables I was killed by these pga people. And this is why I do not want to play at these 500 or upper points tables. And I am not the only one who thinks like this. Others humble themselfs before these people, and make themselfs accepted in that club of pgas, to become cheaters like them and to play at dom tables. So instead of having a great fair game here, here, even the fair players become cheaters, pgas and backstabbers to be able to win awards by the end of the month.
I do not think that Ryan's purpose with this game was this, to create cheaters, and to change the fair players into cheaters. Or if you want to remain fair, you are sentenced to play only in the low tables and never to have the chance to be among the first players. So now the game is like the politics, the villains rule the bunch of stupids and good hearted people.
I propose a change in this. If in the real life we cannot have the chance to live in a fair world, ruled by those who deserve to do it, at least at this game to have this chance, and every one of us to be able to win the game if we want, and not to be every time threw down by some maffia type pga people to the bottom of the scoring board.
I propose to be a button by every player, to give him a minus if he pgas, flags than backstabs, or doing other unfair things. If you see that a player pgas, or bullies other players and than shares its points, you can give him a minus. You can give only one minus for a player in a month. If he gathers 10 minuses, from 10 players in a month, for pgaing to monopolize the upper points tables, for the next month he will be banned. If he backstabs after flagging, after 15 minuses will suffer the same faith. If he has 3 bannings in a year, he will be banned all following year. We know that many players have more than one account. So if he is banned from one account, all his accounts, who play from the same computer should be banned, so with this he cannot just change his account and play like nothing happened.
Only in this way can we make this game playable for fair players and not to be ruled by some bunch of shits, who cheat to win.
If this, or other form of controlling these people will not appair at this game, I will never play again, because after a hard day of working I want to have some minuts wich I can enjoy playing kdice, but in this situation in wich we are now, only anger I can get from this game. Only because I want to be a fair player, not a motherfucker like them.
RYAN, PLEASE MAKE THIS GAME A FAIR GAME FOR FAIR PEOPLE!

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1. backstabbing is not illegal. cannot be compared to pga'ing.

2. everyone will give minusses to his pge's. so your system won't work.

3. at 500-tables pga'ing is not a real problem in >90% of the cases. moreover, u can often easily spot the pga's before the game starts (e.g. if players are too talking together as friends) and leave the table.

1. In your oppinion it is legal to somebody to flag you and than kill you?
2. The pge's usually are "deserved", if you do something unfair for somebody. People will not pge you just for your avatar. And like I said: one player should be able to vote only once for a player in a month. If somebody have 10 pge's, that means he is not a fair player...
3. I do not understand what you mean. How do you know if somebody is pga? Yesterday when that thing, which I talked about happened, I did not know that they pgad, until it was too late. It was one guy, I tried to make a counter alliance, but he said: thanks, not. So even you know, that people are pga, many players prefer not to ally with you to counter, because they are afraid. Pgaing it is not a so big problem at the no dom tables, but when you can loose so many points because of them at the dom tables, it is a real pain.

At the end of the month of course his minuses will not go in the next month too.

1. that is not just my opinion: http://www.kdice.com/blog/48
2. many ppl will often have a sense they are mistreated while the rules were not broken (e.g. backstabbing). also in those cases those ppl will vote against their pge's.
3. in my experience pga's are no big problem at 500-tables. of course, there is always a risk of a pga, but that risk is small. if ppl dont want to join your counter it can help to call them dumbasses and wish them good luck fighting for 3rd max.

1. If backstabbing is ok, why we use flags? They have no use than. In this way they would be only to misslead honest people.
2. Like I said, if you do unfair things, you will have minuses from many people, if you not, only some people will minus you. Ok, maibe not 10 minuses should be enough for banning but lets say 20. In this way you will get some votes from crybabies, but not so many to ban you. And anyway, at the beginning of every month, you will start with 0 minuses. But somebody who really backstabs and pgas continuously, he will have far more minuses, so it will be obvious that he cheates, and he can be banned.
3. I do not know, but I have been mostly backstabbed in 500 or upper tables, and in my experience this is done mostly from those people who have more than 10 000 points, because they want to get first or among the first 100, and so they not choose among methods to win. And many of them ally among each others and join the points they win by pgaing. And also in my opinion you can call them or the cowards how you can, they do not bother, they are not interested about the comments they get.

This game is more or less fair. And if you want to go for a high place, like in real life, you need people to back you up. The higher you go, more approval you need, or let's say less enemies, trustworthy people, etc.
You only talk about PGAs, but in reality the higher tables have a shit ton of hidden PGEs as well. And of course people tend to truce people they can trust.
Ask yourself: why should people trust you?

This is a social game, if you don't socialize you will get overrun by a hidden truce, PGE, OTF, or in worst case, but quite rare,... a PGA.
Higher tables are no pussy-v-flag contests, as you might have seen them on low level tables.
So get your shit together, and learn... like everyone else did once upon a time.

Last but not least:
your suggestions is interesting, but definitely a no go. It could be abused in so many ways to ban people... the idea itself is nice though, just wouldn't work.

You know, I am sick of being backstabbed and „pgaed” every time, even when I play too. I do not need to pga to nobody. I do not need to be trusted to pga with others. I hate pgas, and I ask only to play a fair game! Is that a so bad thing? I do not want to experience the same thing when I play like in the real life. Playing is for relaxation and forgetting the real lifes shits, and not to repeat it again in the virtual life. If done so, why to play anything? Go out, kill some people, cheat some people, or wait to be killed or cheated. This are the two options. I do not think, honest and good people want to be cheated also when they play, as if it is not enough to feel their experiences in the real life. Why to repeat the same shits in your games too? Are we so masochistic or sadistic? Is there no place here for normal people?
I didnt say that this what I proposed is the best way to have a fair play, if somebody has a greater idea to make this game more playable for all people, it should speak and listened. But something has to be done.
„Higher tables are no pussy-v-flag contests, as you might have seen them on low level tables.” - Who said that? In your opinion those who do not pga are pussy v-flaggers?
„So get your shit together, and learn... like everyone else did once upon a time.” – You are saying me to learn to cheat like those pga bastards? To be like them? Common! Fuck all those who do this! What is this game become? A school for learning to be a bastard?! To step on each others heads? Thanks, but I do not want to be part of it!

Those creapy signs are quotations.

Flags were only introduced to help the game end sooner. They are not magic invincibility potions.

Solution = learn to stab

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