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A question of kdice etiquette
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Remiel wrote
at 11:18 PM, Tuesday February 21, 2012 EST
My fellow sirs, a situation arose regarding kdice etiquette upon which I would like to get your esteemed opinions.
I was playing as Brown on one of the 500 tables; my good friend, PoolParty, was Teal. As it happened, around the third or fourth round it because clear that I was no match for Red, the table leader, and naturally flagged. The rest of the table followed suit. With first place locked up, I continued fighting for second. With about three territories left, the Blue player flagged to me. I accepted the flag in due course, turning my attention to Teal in the east. Teal had a slight territory advantage, but I thought with a bit of luck I might be able to pull out 2nd place. The battle fared ill for me; however, instead of focusing on finishing me off, Teal (perhaps feeling overconfident) instead turned his attention to Blue. Rather than flagging to Teal, Blue fought back instead, allowing me to regroup and stage a counter-attack. When it because clearly evident that I had won the battle for 2nd, Teal flagged to me. I told Teal that I was sorry, but I could not accept, since that without Blue's help, I would have come in 3rd (or worse); and so I felt I owed him. Teal was understandably upset, and proceeded to question, in an agitated manner, my intelligence and sexual orientation. My question to you, sirs, is this: was I correct in rewarding Blue's loyalty? Or should I have accepted Teal's flag as soon as it was offered, and let him annihilate Blue? Without Blue's help, there is no way that I could have won the battle. Blue and I were definitely not PGA. |
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Remiel wrote
at 11:19 PM, Tuesday February 21, 2012 EST I should add that Red had no opinion on the matter.
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Debster wrote
at 1:24 AM, Wednesday February 22, 2012 EST Well I'm not a sir and I'm certainly not an esteemed player, but I say it's totally your call. You aren't obligated to take a flag, and I often reward players who help me in the game. Like you said, you'd have been done without blue's help, so I think you were just fine in rewarding that. IMO, there's no right or wrong answer to that- it all comes down to what your personal playing style is. I err on the side of rewarding people for their help, so I probably would have done the same thing you did.
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DJohnson wrote
at 2:52 AM, Wednesday February 22, 2012 EST you played to win, but it can be argued that blue saw an opportunity to gain position by ganking teal in a 2v1, 2v1 is not seen as especially polite a lot of the time. therefore it doesnt matter at all. fuck the police.
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Thraxle wrote
at 5:03 AM, Wednesday February 22, 2012 EST The three of you should have truced against red.
Vflags suck. That is all. |
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Mr Postman wrote
at 5:16 AM, Wednesday February 22, 2012 EST dj whats ganking mean? haha
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Remiel wrote
at 5:58 AM, Wednesday February 22, 2012 EST DJohnson >> The thing is, Teal attacked Blue first. So if it was a 2v1 situation, Teal kind of brought it on himself (perhaps thinking that Blue would be an easy kill).
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Gurgi wrote
at 8:37 AM, Wednesday February 22, 2012 EST td;dr
imo kdice etiquette = don't complain and play to win |
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Definitely Veta wrote
at 8:51 AM, Wednesday February 22, 2012 EST as an esteemed player with what would be six world champion title belts I would argue you made the right call.
I doubt this single game will make or break your reputation and frankly unless you're playing 5k your reputation doesn't mean anything. but if you do care about your reputation, especially with regards to succeeding at this flash game, then you're doing the right thing by rewarding those who help you and crushing those who stand in opposition. I do however also agree with the moderator thraxle who suggested you all simply team up against red. If you were indeed friendly with teal before this game and thus had a repertoire with him then it shouldn't have been that hard to recruit him for a mutiny. Lastly there is one caveat here, some players, especially if you play with them regularly on 2k/5k, are worth cutting some slack in order to maintain a friendly relationship with in future games. If THE NIGGLER was teal in this situation, I probably would've let teal take 2nd and take third 3rd for myself. So you see, it's a matter of a circumstance but I would argue in these circumstances you did the right thing. |
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montecarlo wrote
at 10:02 AM, Wednesday February 22, 2012 EST 1) punish those who hurt, reward those who help. this is a personal stance i have, others disagree with it.
2) you didnt mention a key part of the battle. what was happening in chatbox. teal perhaps errantly assumed that his fight was for 2/3. yes, he initiated with blue, which might have hurt him. but its implicit that blue is his enemy if blue is not flagging 4th. what i like to say in teals position (especially when im in a position of strength compared to you) before initiating the fight for 2nd is, "dont worry brown, this is a 2/3 fight, i wont fuck you into 4th." this immediately brings the main issue to the front: how to deal with blues singular flag to brown. it also puts brown on the spot: it forces him to say, no, i will 2v1 you, or to say, cheers mate, lets 1v1, and gl. whenever im one of the bigger 2 fighting, i hate hate HATE HATE when the smallest 3rd color decides not to flag but try to weasel his way up the ladder by saying, okay, the two big guys can fight for 2/4, ill sit 3. im amazed that this strat is still effective on kdice. (and yes, when im the small guy, i will 90% of the time try to weasel my way up instead of flag out. but only because that strat is still effective because... well... its a long story) |
