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Cal Ripken wrote
at 10:04 AM, Monday January 23, 2012 EST
This article is quite long, but I enjoyed it. Really highlights the details behind the struggle between our would-be-bipartisan President and the current state of American politics.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/01/30/120130fa_fact_lizza?currentPage=all

The theme that sums it all up to me is really interesting: Obama was able to beat H. Clinton by framing her in the way the American public already had: divisive and combative. But in the end, he may find more success as POTUS by emulating her.

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deadcode wrote
at 10:53 AM, Monday January 23, 2012 EST
Young naive idealistic black president is left holding the bag for 80+ years of failed Keynesian policies.

Personally I do not blame Obama for the crisis we are currently in; however Obama has done nothing to treat the cause of the problem. Monetary Policy. I believe that no matter what he does it will not matter until monetary policy is addressed.
Cal Ripken wrote
at 11:01 AM, Monday January 23, 2012 EST
I don't think the stalemate in Congress has anything to do with the supposed failure of Keynesian economics.

Even if you argue that Keynesian economics caused the recessions (obviously I would disagree), the inactivity of Congress and the retreating of the Republican party to a reactionary hardlined-rightwing ideology is hardly a response to the economic practices - it's political posturing.
Thraxle wrote
at 11:27 AM, Monday January 23, 2012 EST
Republicans: All Obama does is political posturing.

Democrats: All Republicans do is political posturing.


blah blah blah


Both sides do it. Both sides are protecting their "turf". We need a third party, and we need it now.
Cal Ripken wrote
at 11:50 AM, Monday January 23, 2012 EST
Good luck with that.
Cal Ripken wrote
at 11:51 AM, Monday January 23, 2012 EST
The main difference in both sides posturing is the level on which their respective lines have been drawn.
Thraxle wrote
at 12:19 PM, Monday January 23, 2012 EST
Is that what CNN told you? : )
greekboi wrote
at 12:42 PM, Monday January 23, 2012 EST
lol @ "would-be-partisan"

all you politically incognizant folks look at is Obama's campaign platform. you seem to ignore his actions while in office, specifically his attitude and finger-pointing at Republicans that has been a main theme of his tenure.

anyways, this is why I rarely waste my time discussing politics on here, or anywhere I guess.
Cal Ripken wrote
at 1:12 PM, Monday January 23, 2012 EST
maybe read the article, Harry.
Cal Ripken wrote
at 1:13 PM, Monday January 23, 2012 EST
"Is that what CNN told you? : )"

There's no way you're arguing to the contrary, right?
deadcode wrote
at 2:34 PM, Monday January 23, 2012 EST
JPC: "I don't think the stalemate in Congress has anything to do with the supposed failure of Keynesian economics."

Sure; I agree.

JPC: "Even if you argue that Keynesian economics caused the recessions (obviously I would disagree)"

Why is it obvious that you would disagree? Both the parties are Keynesian. Certainly you are able to at least consider the idea.

JPC: "... the inactivity of Congress and the retreating of the Republican party to a reactionary hardlined-rightwing ideology is hardly a response to the economic practices - it's political posturing."

Sure; both parties are politically posturing. Both parties represent empty promises and zero credibility. Both parties had a hand in getting us here. Both parties are Keynesian. They posture because they are unable to do anything else. They tried everything they could think of to fix the economy; they are out of ideas. Now it is posturing time.
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