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let's talk NBA trades
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greekboi wrote
at 12:40 AM, Friday December 9, 2011 EST
where is CP3 gonna land? NBA just rejected the deal with LA. Also thoughts on the Butler/Chandler trades, as well as the others? Sources are now saying Dwight is asking for a trade to NJ.
Also, let's talk MLB...ummm Angels with a freakin' power move, huh? Sheesh. Signed the top free agent hitter and pitcher. I'm kinda curious as to what you guys think about offering a 32 year old guy who just had his worse season (albeit he hit .299 with almost 40 dingers and 99 RBI's) a 10 year deal to the tune of 250,000,000 smackaroos. Don't forget that their two most powerful hitters are first basemen. And this new team, these Miami Marlins, making big moves and looking to challenge the Phillies in the NL East. It's certainly been an exciting week of trades and free agent acquisitions, and things should get really interesting starting tomorrow, especially in the NBA. So, your guys thoughts on what's happened so far, and dare anyone venture to predict any future moves thus showcasing their superior knowledge of professional sports? Let's make this an interesting chat, because I'm too bored with playing as of late, and I haven't been able to find any interesting forum topics (what else is new?). Oh, and I obviously don't have any real-life friends to discuss this with, so that is out of the question. |
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Thraxle wrote
at 8:46 AM, Friday December 9, 2011 EST In baseball, one player does not a good team make. Pujols is extremely overpaid considering his age, but I think they'll get good value out of him for about 4 seasons, maybe 5. An MVP in baseball is usually worth about 7-9 wins above replacement per season (one extra win for every 18-23 games). If you switch this metric to basketball, a player like Lebron, or Jordan in his prime, has a win above replacement of something like 30 games per season and Lebron makes like $17 million/year. So yeah, Pujols is overpaid, but most stars in baseball are overpaid. Just look at half the players on the Yankees and Red Sox.
As for the NBA trade machine, I don't see any conceivable way the Knicks are going to get Chris Paul via trade, and Paul won't go the season without getting traded unless he refuses to sign an extension with anyone OTHER THAN the Knicks. So if Paul REALLY wants to play in New York, then he'd have to veto a trade by simply not signing an extension since he'll be a free agent next year. My Celtics time is running out and we'll soon be in a rebuilding phase again. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. |
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montecarlo wrote
at 9:08 AM, Friday December 9, 2011 EST paul is def going to the lakers. stern is gonna rescind that jackass veto when he realizes how the ENTIRE nba fanbase think its ludicrous. there was no collusion in that trade. hell, the hornets got back a shitload for a man they KNOW is leaving them in 7 months anyway. the only people who are objecting are 1) some idiotic paranoid owners, and 2) some of their idiotic paranoid fans. 95% of the regular fans LOVED that trade, and couldnt wait to see the new lakers/rockets/hornets. ffs stern.
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Thraxle wrote
at 9:18 AM, Friday December 9, 2011 EST I'd rather see the Lakers get Chris Paul and lose their big men. I think it makes them a worse team which is just fine with me. Even if they get Howard and have a Kobe/CP3/Superman nucleus, I don't see that squad winning championships. Franchises just don't fucking get it anymore. Stars don't usually win you championships, role players do. Kobe didn't win those recent rings, it was having Odom/Gasol/Bynum banging the boards and Derek Fisher hitting clutch shots. Just like the Celtics, their entire team's identity was changed by losing KENDRICK PERKINS. It's the role players that make or break a team. Sure, there are occasionally basketball players that can effect just how good a team is (see: Jordan, Michael), but nobody in today's NBA is that good outside of maybe Lebron, and we'll never know just how good Lebron could have been because he pussied out and went to the Heat.
In conclusion.........please Stern, let the Lakers have CP3. |
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fcuku_ wrote
at 9:59 AM, Friday December 9, 2011 EST The whole purpose of this lockout was that the small market teams were losing tons of money, whereas teams like LA, Boston, Miami, etc. were spending out the ass to make their own personal all-star teams. If stern doesn't veto this trade he is basically taking a giant shit on the agreement that the owners and the players made.
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montecarlo wrote
at 10:02 AM, Friday December 9, 2011 EST wrong.
this trade helps the small market teams at least as much as the lakers. if the hornets dont make this trade, they get jackshit in 7 months. a lot of good that does them. much better to have odom/scola/martin plus a 1st round pick locked down to rebuild off of than... NOTHING AT ALL. ppl say theyre getting 90 cents on the dollar for paul, which is great considering there is ZERO chance he comes back to them in 7 months. now they will be forced to take 50 cents on the dollar when the trade deadline comes. lol that you think this helps the small market team. and lol if you think paul isnt going to a big market team next year anyways. |
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fcuku_ wrote
at 10:02 AM, Friday December 9, 2011 EST On pujols, at first I was elated that he was going to the angels because that means that I would only have to see his smug goateed face maybe once or twice a year (if at all).
But then I realized that the Astros were moving to the AL West. FUCK! |
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fcuku_ wrote
at 10:09 AM, Friday December 9, 2011 EST I was going off the trade I heard (CP3 to LA, gasol to hou, scola/another Houston guy to NO). There are thousands of better things that NO could do with the money that CP3 leaves behind. You're assuming that the only way that NO can get value from CP3 is by trading him. CP is a player that puts people in the seats, people aren't going to buy a ticket to go see the dynamic combination of Louis scola and David west. If CP3 leaves, yeah they might be in a better place talent wise, but there is no way that John Q basketballfan is going to want to spend 50$ to see NO without CP3.
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fcuku_ wrote
at 10:12 AM, Friday December 9, 2011 EST I'm not saying he is going to stay, but what NO needs to do is squeeze CP3 for all he is worth as a ticket draw, find ways to make him as happy as possible for the last year of his contract so that they can make money off ticket sales and a possible playoff push, and if they trade him away, not only do they lose their most talented player, they lose the only reason to watch NO play basketball.
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Cal Ripken wrote
at 10:22 AM, Friday December 9, 2011 EST I agree with Monte - the Hornets are screwed because of this veto
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Thraxle wrote
at 10:36 AM, Friday December 9, 2011 EST I hold fast to the thought that the Lakers going small is a REALLY bad move on their part, so I hope the appeal overturns Stern's original decision. Kobe has never been able to win without a stellar inside presence (Shaq & Pau/Bynum). In the in-between years of those big men playing for the Lakers Kobe was a ball hawking, whiny little cunt.
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