Yes, definetly.

There is a small group that has numerous to uncountable accounts and is circular wanking each other. New players and outsiders don't stand a chance and quickly lose the fun once they run into this.

I'd love to scan the forum for you guys and get you a similar thread like this from every other month since the sites' inception. But I don't feel like spending the time.

Good way to justify a PGA that thrax

Wasn't justifying anything. Was simply pointing out that people have been saying this site is dying for years.

It does seem to be declining a bit, but that's just anecdotal. I don't have any real metrics to back that up.

Certainly the nature of the forum has changed, but I actually think the overall number of players/games has gone down.

it's dead and it needs CPR, again

Louis, that's right up there with all those german fags who speak in their Viking tongue at the table and help each other out to win at a 100 level game, good job! *THUMBS WAY UP*

Ryan: who cares

let's hope this displays OK for starters:

it's incomplete data but it's what I could dig up fast. It's the sum of all points gained by top 100 in a month. We dropped about 20% over 2 years. Well if you put it in a graph, it mainly drops the last 8 months. It looks stable again for the last 3 months or so.

dec/09 3333001
jan/10 3341474
apr/10 3394347
mei/10 3238374
okt/10 2975607
nov/10 3036697
dec/10 2980655
jan/11 3346686
feb/11 2912801
mrt/11 3103305
apr/11 3013227
mei/11 2824201
jun/11 2897388
jul/11 2806958
aug/11 2601394
sep/11 2631983
okt/11 2588726
nov/11 2672600

top 100 might not be the best method to evaluate site traffic but it's relatively easy to do.

I had started a project to estimate all points gained by the entire rank in a month but it's a lot of manual labour. Basically you need a good dataset of ranks + points for each month. with about 50 datapoints for each month (ranks ranging from place 10 to place 4000) you can estimate a point vs rank curve for each month. The evolution of that global points total would be a good measure of skill *cough* site activity

I woudl need help from a scripter for the datapoints

But anyway, why do all that hard work. The perception is defenitely there. Last few month, it seems like the tables are so deserted and that there are fewer 500s active. Also the 2k and 5k's start later in the month.

no one wants to play anymore because all the new-new-schoolers in the top 25 are wankers. give it another few months until they realize KDice isn't that important and start to care less, and competition will probably increase.