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Jurgen and the MODerator system
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nixx wrote
at 10:00 AM, Sunday September 11, 2011 EDT
Let me begin by saying that I am NOT writing this as an insult to Jurgen or to any of the other MOD's.
What I am doing is questioning / discussing the current MOD system. Without talking to Ryan personally, I can only guess at the reasoning behind having MODERATORS as actual players of the game, but I’m sure they are (and not limited to) some of the following: 1. The MODS are in the games, know the game , and like the game . 2. The MODS will not be immediately recognized as a MODERATOR in every game, and as such, the MOD's will witness a lot of 'uncensored' chat and game play. 3. The MODS are probably free to Ryan. Possibly compensated with some free memberships / and or a feeling of authority. With that said, its obvious that Ryan is running a business. The KDice, GPokr, and Xsketch sites are successful web businesses that I have enjoyed for years, along with many other players. I am also sure that the inexpensive / friendly gaming environments that Ryan has created have brought him a lot of financial success, and I congratulate / aspire this as a fellow programmer. I believe the current MOD system changes the games to an extent that jeopardizes the future success of these sites. The reasoning for my frustration: Jurgen recently accused me of being in violation of the game rules. The Justification for his accusations: Not accepting a verbal flag from Moulue during a members tournament. I would like to go over the actual rules of the game for those of you who have not read them. The rules of the game are simple: 1.Do not use pornographic Avatars. (My Avatar is a black square, and has been for several weeks, before that, it was the Mandelbrot set for a very long time.) 2. Do not harass people. (OK,well, this one is a little vague, what constitutes harassment? Honestly, I have, like a lot of others, in the past gotten angry in the chat box over the outcome of a game. Note though that my treatment of other players was never in question during this member’s tournament or any other ring game in the past.) 3. Do Not Use Hate Language or Avatars. ( See my responses to Rule 2 and 3...Furthermore, I am not a racist, and do not use racist language. The only Biased thing I do on this website is go easier on girls with cute pictures of themselves....Brighty is a perfect example.) 4. Game to Game favors are not allowed. ( I was accused of being in alliance with 2 players in a 9 player members tournament . MC and another player whose name I can’t even remember. For the record, I do not know these players in real life, nor have I any arrangement with them for mutually beneficial game outcomes. Jurgen accuses me of this, but cannot ever prove this, because it is SIMPLY NOT TRUE). 5. Play only one account at a time. (I have several accounts Nix, Nixx, Nixxx, Nixxxx, etc. I have only ever played one of them at a time. If this is to be questioned, I rerfer Ryan to his own servers history records.) So...with all of the above said, the following was posted on my review page by Jurgen after Moulue reported me minutes after the conclusion of the members tournament. serious warning: can't call it pga with "MC"/zoid for sure but very fishy screw of molou at the very least. Game 1: you don't let him fight for 3rd for a made up reason. Game 2 before heads up: you don't let him fight again because you accept the weirdest "I won't cut you for 2nd" when there wasn't even a real cut on. Next fishy play will mean a ban. -avatar jurgen 7:43 PM, Saturday September 10, 2011 CDT Notice that Jurgen was able to post this on my review page with the warning category listed as Avatar. I guess there is not a category for warnings regarding NOT ACCEPTING VERBAL FLAGS. I bet that is because NOT ACCEPTING VERBAL FLAGS IS NOT A VIOLATION OF THE RULES. I wonder why not accepting verbal flags is not a rule….. Probably because it is sometimes WISE TO DO SO, seeing as the the goal of KDICE IS TO WIN POINTS WITHIN THE RULES AND PARAMETERS OF THE GAME! Flags are in place to shorten games, not as a tool for players to think they are guaranteed safety, at the cost of other players expansion and game progress. Let me go over how I handle verbal flags: If a verbal flag hurts my game….I do not accept it. If a verbal flag is neutral to my game….I sometimes accept it. If a verbal flag helps my game…I accept it. In conclusion, MODerators should not have the ability to arbitrarily assign negative warnings on players review page. I agree that pornographic, racist and otherwise inappropriate language and avatars should not be tolerated, however, I think that there is too much wiggle room for the MODerators. They are not there to analyze the way I win games. They are there to, based on facts, and never capriciously, assign warnings to players that are in clear violation of the actual rules of the game. I want this post to begin a serious discussion about authority and discretion give to the MODerators. (This Post has been emailed to Ryan as Well) |
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0632242545 wrote
at 2:38 PM, Monday September 12, 2011 EDT I hope more people follow your lead and circumvent the asinine moderators here by emailing ryan.
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Thraxle wrote
at 2:44 PM, Monday September 12, 2011 EDT You're such a fucking dipshit for bringing one of his other triple-post fails back to the top.
You are the asinined one... |
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0632242545 wrote
at 2:47 PM, Monday September 12, 2011 EDT What an exemplorary example of how to give contructive criticism by a seasoned moderator.
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Thraxle wrote
at 2:48 PM, Monday September 12, 2011 EDT You are well beyond constructive criticism as you have openly admitted you are here simply to troll the forum and discredit mods.
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0632242545 wrote
at 2:55 PM, Monday September 12, 2011 EDT How is standing for the integrity of the game and community trolling? Please site where I said I'm only around to troll you Rob. Sorry but I legitimately see a poor system ruining a site I once cherished and an actively campaigning against it.
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Thraxle wrote
at 3:00 PM, Monday September 12, 2011 EDT What are you campaigning for? A mod-free site? Ryan to make developmental changes?
Neither of those will happen right now. |
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Thraxle wrote
at 3:04 PM, Monday September 12, 2011 EDT @Jurgenlikesdick wrote
at 9:06 PM, Sunday September 11, 2011 CDT Oh sorry rob I exhausted alts #1-472, at this point I am being maliciously silenced and so I refuse to accept that without expressing a reciprocally spiteful sentiment (hence personal insults). Personally insulting user name to spite a moderator = trolling |
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0632242545 wrote
at 5:09 PM, Monday September 12, 2011 EDT I'm campaigning for a check on the unbridled moderator abuse that has been scourging this site since BR was made a moderator.
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nixx wrote
at 5:40 PM, Monday September 12, 2011 EDT Bottom Line: the MOD system causes more problems than it solves. Been playing for a very long time, and there is much, much, much more arguing on this site than there had been previously.
Thats my opinion. Naturally, the MODs take a diffrent approach, thats why they did whatever it was they had to do to become one. |
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0632242545 wrote
at 6:36 PM, Monday September 12, 2011 EDT Well put nix, that seems to be the sentiment of a lot of people lately.
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