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Iowa Straw Poll
deadcode wrote
at 4:17 PM, Monday August 15, 2011 EDT
Bachman wins by about 150 votes; Ron Paul second.

You'd never know it by the media blackout on Ron Paul though...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61412.html

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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 4:23 PM, Monday August 15, 2011 EDT
I don't really care, but I had never heard of the straw poll until this year and the ammount of attention this farce of a democratic proceeding got really illuminates some of the seriously drastic problems out asinine primary systems create.

I would like to see Ron Paul get more attention as a legitimate candidate for the Republican nod because when he isn't being too crazy most of his ideals are pretty decent.
deadcode wrote
at 4:53 PM, Monday August 15, 2011 EDT
Yeah I agree; it is unfortunate that the real debate is being stifled in this country. It will not succeed though; you cannot stop the spread of ideas.
MadHat_Sam wrote
at 5:45 PM, Monday August 15, 2011 EDT
If the "Tea Party" and I mean the original thrust of the movement, libertarian fiscal ideals, could separate itself from the absolutely idiotic religious fervor of the fundamentalist right we might have had a chance for some honest debate and forced elected officials to answer tougher questions.
montecarlo wrote
at 5:49 PM, Monday August 15, 2011 EDT
thought I read that in order to vote in this straw poll, you had to buy a ticket for ?$10? and lots of these tickets were bought by the candidates funds themselves for their backers? is that true??
dasfury wrote
at 6:20 PM, Monday August 15, 2011 EDT
She was born in Iowa. No shock that she 'won' this meaningless straw poll. So does this make these Iowan voters as dense as her?
deadcode wrote
at 7:07 PM, Monday August 15, 2011 EDT
Yes that is true Monte. The process sounds pretty stupid and I'm not really knowledgeable about the reasoning about it being set up that way.

But beyond that; Ron Paul got second place by basically a less then 1 percent difference and the media has offered him no appearances on shows. In fact his only scheduled appearance was canceled by the show before hand.

This is in stark contrast to Bachmann who is being paraded around like prom queen. I mean go figure; a social conservative won in a social conservative state. The real news is how the eff did a libertarian ALMOST win.
deadcode wrote
at 7:09 PM, Monday August 15, 2011 EDT
And btw; I completely agree with Sam. The GOP platform is a winner in 2012; if they can subtract the social conservative crap from it.
skrumgaer wrote
at 7:14 PM, Monday August 15, 2011 EDT
Maybe all ballots should be offered at a price and if your candidate doesn't win you get a refund.
montecarlo wrote
at 8:08 PM, Monday August 15, 2011 EDT
so in this case, ron paul = diceygirl, eh?
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