agreed

i think the 16 dice tables should be bigger

and 4 dice tables smaller

+jtd, +gurgi

smaller tables, less dice

it has been suggested to Ryan a few days ago, I am sure he will see the logic in it

that was yodel?

and the groupthink at the game tended towards:

auto-end the 4stack game at round 20. divide up the points according to total number of dice (with maybe a bonus for number of lands too, but land count can be swayed by ninjas)

I think we receive more dice/land on 16 tables.

it was 495 rounds and it wasn't yodel, it was unluckybunny

But Marius makes an interesting suggestion

Maybe the 4 stack tables should be bigger and there can be several centers of power for each player, as in the game of Go. A 4 stack game goes faster if all players make all the 4 v 4's and 3 v 4's that their dice counts allow.

1) there was absolutely no way that the 495 round could have gone any faster. we rolled every possible 3v4, every possible 2v4. bottlenecks kill 4stack games.

2) if the limit were dropped to +16, the game indeed would have been shortened from 495 rounds down to... 180 rounds. it took THAT LONG before either of us lost about 20 in a row to get down to +16 reserves. so +16 is not an advisable solution. maybe +4 or so...