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Barrack H Obama Banned-Incorrect
SimonTG3 wrote
at 4:17 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
Jurgen, If you have time, could you maybe copy and paste all the evidence here on why Barrack H Obama got banned. I will argue every point since this account is in fact legitimate.

If any evidence doesn't explicitly show that I have indeed broke a rule, then I feel like your decision is correct in your role as a mod, but if not, being unbanned would be an appropriate action.

This account has been anonymousness, because of my personal choice, but over the month, players have discovered my identity. If any players can vouch for me I will really appreciate it.

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SimonTG3 wrote
at 4:23 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
Oh and Jurgen, in that post I made (which you believe BO had made), I mentioned:

"ordinary/partial differential equations"

I don't even think BO knows what a "ordinary/partial differential equations", since he is a finance major and the highest math class they usually have to take is Pre-Calculus. If you have any doubts what math classes Veta have taken, you can check his transcript from Notre Dame.

Oh and if you check my facebook page, you will see I am Physics, Math, and Astrophysics major. I know my partial differential equations and shit, if you want, I'll solve one for you or tell you if a solution exists. I also know how to model these charts that BO or w/e these guys post and have done some work for agencies that present these findings to the public.
Crazy Smurf wrote
at 4:39 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
i can vouch for that i didint see you cheat, but thats all i can vouch for. If it was shared there is no way i could have known...
tho i was one of the few ppl who knew from a early stage.
Crazy Smurf wrote
at 4:39 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
who you were ^
Lucky Loser wrote
at 4:52 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
who is Obama ?
SimonTG3 wrote
at 4:58 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
vashthestabde
jurgen wrote
at 5:48 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
Simon, I told you I need to sleep over it

My initial feel about that Barack post was that it was BO continuing his discussion with dead on barack by accident. Maybe I am the only one to think that reading the post. I was actually surprised BO would even make that silly mistake so I admit I have doubts.

and ofc I might be wrong, I told you that you could try and convince me. Either way I need to sleep over it and I think the 1 day ban that this sleep over it will imply is very justified for the few things I saw in the first half of the month (and the things you admitted where technically I can ALWAYS ban a day for).

Also I don't HAVE to present you all my evidence PER SE. I agree this is the perfect way to handle things looking at it from the defendants point of view. I try to do this when possible and I certainly don't plan on denying you your right to defend yourself. I didn't videocap games I saw in the first half of the month. Either Ryan codes game save/replay functions or my word of my own eyewitness report will have to do in some cases. And also, I am going to protect my sources who gave me info on this account possibly being shared.

But I am gonna end with the following because THIS is actually the main reason why I think I should ban you longer than just one day. Denying this just made it look fishier.

When we talked earlier about the IPs and them always being the same even when at home or at uni, you kinda played dumb about it. Sure you know this is easy to do. I cannot be sure you do it now but you have to admit you (would) know how to do it. You admitted to proxying in the past (was it 4 players at a time?) on the uni server and also, Bleached was shared where I also didn't notice the IPs changing when they should have.
SimonTG3 wrote
at 6:28 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
I'll let you sleep over it.

I wasn't playing dumb about the IP. I don't know how to works, I'll ask my computer science friends, but I tried log-inning into 2 accounts at the university (something I couldn't do at home) and it worked. I tried 3, then 4, but 4 is the limit. I don't know why.

I don't know what mechanism is different between my local network at home and the universities, but something allows you to play 4 accounts without kdice noticing. Kdice notices at 5 though.

Also, its really complicated to do, since you have to be on 4 computers at the same time, which makes it a bit difficult to do. I haven't done that since December and its really exhausting/time consuming to do so. Using 4 computers by yourself is a bitch and a half.

Its also really stupid, I rather play the games with the rules its better to win that day.

You should protect your sources thats fine (its not like I will retaliate, its just nice to know who has it in for you), but you can tell me what they said. If they said I admitted to ingame PGA, I always, always, tell people I PGA jokingly and its pretty obvious.

That being said, I just have a problem with false information and fallacious arguments being used. I am fine with being banned, I will not complain at all if this were straight legit information (say I don't attack someone for 3 games straight etc...).

And in that forum in which you mentioned that "this is enough evidence", I was thinking of mentioning before hand to deadcode that I wasn't BO, but I really like being anonymousness.

Anyways, you should sleep on it.
SimonTG3 wrote
at 6:37 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
Oh, and why should I admit to a crime I did not commit? Denying making me fishy? Well I guess I am in double whammy. And you offering an unban if I admitted to it?...

I am denying this shit because its wrong. I fucking hate it when people say incorrect shit and is the reason why I rarely actually say anything in these fucktarded political forums, where someone argues just to be 'right'. I don't do that, I fucking argue to find truth, thats how I operate.

Jurgen your a great mod still, just arguing for my whats right now.
boogybytes wrote
at 7:31 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
these rules and bans are absurd
just let the community moderate itself through PGE
deadcode wrote
at 7:38 PM, Sunday May 22, 2011 EDT
Btw; Simon; if you really are "Barack H Obama" (which I will take your word for), you may have created this issue for yourself; by pretending to be Boner Oiler on a few occasions that I remember. In fact; Jurgen was in the room; at the time of one of them; to my knowledge.

I've had numerous conversations with "Barack H Obama" where he would enter the room with me and start arguing with me about politics. My assumption was that it was Boner Oiler (because he is the only one that does that in the forum); at first; and this was confirmed to me a few times in chat by this person.

Why would you tell me and numerous other people, in chat, that you were in fact Boner Oiler; sounds like you kinda brought this on yourself.
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