Jeez, it's been known for ages that last days of every month are meant for point funneling. What mods are doing, I have no idea, they must be blind not to see zoid getting ~47ks yesterday in 12 games and he wasn't even the first to funnel.

Just ignore this c**p, its not like anyone will do anything about it.

I saw the first few games and I didn't see anything that was justifying a ban. I can't ban for killing people like sitting ducks. I can't ban for winning 45k in a day. I can't ban for trucing the same people 3times in a row when it even makes some sense (but I also realize it can be more than just a common-sense truce-yet I can't prove that).

So instead of posting crap and saying mods don't do anything, watch some games and videocap me some evidence (if it's even there).

Another suggestion: play some games against them and actually try and make a stand and react before they truce and dominate the board. You seem to know everything so you should know by now zoid will always try to manipulate the board. So you better be man enough to kill him early on instead of whine here imo.

Whining here won't have no effect since the mods don't do shit anyway. You outsmarting them on the board however will have an effect.

@Jurg, I truly hope that your last reply was being directed @ reminder.

ofcourse it wasnt silly. you can't outsmart anyone

yes DDY, I was only responding to remdiner's waste of forum space.

You were free to point out the nice run zoid had at the 5k there, we can even discuss if cheating was involved or not but then we need to discuss based on clear fishy moves in those games (which I failed to see in the first few games at the 5k that day).

I'm just tired of the "oh we all know this and that for a long time". If you know it, fight it on the board too. The mods will do their part of the job if the evidence is there. But people are innocent until proven guilty.

@jurgen
*sigh*

So nice of you, calling my posts waste of forum space. Their only meaning is to show what the current game looks like to anyone beginning to play and with enough brain to read the forum.

About the mod comment... jurgen, that wasn't directed at you. Not that I say that your work is very impressive, catching the small time fishies and leaving the sharks alone, but that's still a lot more than what I've seen from some other mods who use their power to ban only those who directly pga against them.

Now we go to the proof part. Once again, having dealt with this, you should probably know how hard it's to get. Not only I'd have to stalk someone for 10+ games at a very particular time, I'd also have to record a bunch of games which would have both pga partners present. That is a great waste of time for anyone with a life. Therefore I have no real proof of any cheating occurring, I can only mention the tendencies of newbies getting raped at high tables and magical successive wins at the end of each month. This could be supported by endless complaints of other players, but they're usually diminished by a couple of people saying "get good", so let's not talk about them.

Now this basically "not guilty until proven otherwise" is screwing kdice hard, and it's doing so for a long time already. Even better, some players, when caught and banned, are allowed to remake accounts or can even get them unbanned. This makes the very idea of banning useless, and same cheaters rampage the boards for years now.

What can you do? Heck, at least stop the blatant cheating. If a player admits to PGA in chat, slap a ban without wondering whether its a joke or not. After all, it's not a thing to joke about at all. Ban alts of banned players, keep the punishments instead of putting them for 1 day like a joke. Watch (or play) high tables, they have a much higher percentage of cheaters than small bet tables, where you can find a cheater once in 50 games or so. Do at least some of these things, and cheating at the very least should decrease in the games you watch.

I do understand you have a life, so just do what you can do without blowing your brain moderating an internet game without any pay. My thanks if you do any of the things I've written.


Now on the topic. I do not know how you see zoid's wins and what DDDY posted, but to me, this is blatant cheating. Obviously, there's a chance to win 100 games in a row, but what are the chances? Just asking to check these irregular results, that's all.

I have seen only one of the 12 zoid's games I mentioned, and therefore I can't say what was wrong with them, but I'd be willing to trust AlphaQupNdown saying here, on forums, that Gurgi is partially responsible for it. Them cheaters hate the competition and often tell the truth about them. If you have the tools to check how Gurgi and zoid were involved that time - it might be a proof... if you don't - well, thanks Ryan.

If you wanna say anything else find me playing, I'm wasting too much time for what was supposed to be a simple warning to beware of cheaters. Thank you.

ok reminder, now that last post of yours was much longer but it wasn't a waste of forum space at all

it's full of good arguments and I agree with a lot in there

I am sorry but I am just tired of people saying mods don't do anything. We don't have all the tools needed to catch cheaters, we don't have all the tools to punish them and we need proof to take action.

Your last post illustrates why it is so hard to mod and why smaller fish are so much easier to catch (cuz they aren't smart enough to hide the cheating)

and I agree about joking about cheating, I put it in my blog guide. If you are gonna joke about it and push it too far, I might just ban it

All that being said, I will not ban any player without being sure enough. So many cheaters will get away with it. I am sorry for that but there is no magical solution.

The only solution is revolution!