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High stack vs low stack
Mause wrote
at 6:49 AM, Tuesday November 9, 2010 EST
Maybe it is just me but i have been testing it out.... from the 25 times i attacked with an 8 stack to a real lower stack of dice.. 5-6 i only won 1 move,,, its said that the rolls are random.. but after my test iam not that sure about it.. how can an 8 stack loose from a 4 stack... how many % you have to loose from it... 8% in theorie.. but in the practical way.. the winchance from 8% becomes loosechance.. Yeah thats random...

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jurgen wrote
at 7:28 AM, Tuesday November 9, 2010 EST
the 8 stacks are lazy this month (and last month): I only roll like 26 on average (should be 28 on average)

--> me not playing much this month
Louis Cypher wrote
at 9:01 AM, Tuesday November 9, 2010 EST
Lol, I just lost 8v7 three times in a row.... chance for that to happen is 3%. The other month I did it 5 times in a row. Chance for that is 0.35%... Both happening to me - no chance ;-)

I am still looking for somebody that has ever witnessed a 48 happening. Rolling 8 with an 8stack has been reported several times and has happened to me - it is possible. I think 48 is not. Random rolling is as ballanced as luck's average is 50%. Are you surprised?

Jurgen is right of course with his observation, 28 is a high roll with an 8stack, subjectively you average well below.
noamlang1 wrote
at 10:44 AM, Tuesday November 9, 2010 EST
ive had 47
ive had 9
and ive seen an 8v2 fail,
the 9 and the 8v2 fail are connected,
and it happened in the final table of the daily acouple days back.
the 8s are lazy this month
MysticHippo wrote
at 10:57 AM, Tuesday November 9, 2010 EST
I have collected data of thousands of attacks and these real outcomes do fit the theoretical percentages. What my stats do show is that the great majority of players fall for psychological traps, like stacking up their sixes and seves. 6v5, 7v6 etc is a lot smarter than 8v8, even if it means you lack reserves.
jurgen wrote
at 11:26 AM, Tuesday November 9, 2010 EST
hippo, there are situations where stacking is smarter and there are situations where attacking before stacked have better odds of winning

But your first point is interesting. I checked some of my win% too for 8v7 and 8v8 and I score a bit below the expected value. Did you only keep track of win/loss for all those attacks? could you post some numbers?

I mean something like this: 8v7__X #watched__ Y % succesfull __Z% theoretical win%
John Milton wrote
at 4:46 PM, Tuesday November 9, 2010 EST
In those thousands of rolls - how many 48 with an 8stack? It should be (1/6)^8.... 9.9E-8 something like 100 Million rolls needed, right? Well, there must have been more 8v8 in the last couple of years.

Question: how do you keep track? Write down your rolls every turn????
jurgen wrote
at 10:16 AM, Wednesday November 10, 2010 EST
just decide what you can track at the same time and prepare a sheet of paper with say

8v8 8v7 and 8v6.

It's easier to note down only your own attacks since you know in advance which rolls you will do so you will never get overflooded with data and won't have to skip a few by lack of time.

Make a Win and Lose column for every type of roll you'll track and mark the result in the correct column each time, pretty simple imo.

To roughly check if you win about the number you would expect, you would need 100 rolls. To check smaller differences, you'd have to check 1000 or more.

P.S. it would be cool if someone knew how to program a tool to "track" the roll info from the game history scrollwindow so that it could automaticaly "read" the roll result data from the person you asked the tool to track the results for.
Troy11 wrote
at 1:47 AM, Thursday November 11, 2010 EST
i lose a lot of 7v4 and 7v5, my 5v6s are deadly, i win them, the best roll ive seen is 2v7 and ive rolled 47 with an 8
Iumentum wrote
at 7:51 AM, Thursday November 11, 2010 EST
I made a small dirty script to track rolls which i will try to run when i got the time. Will paste the results here when it's been collecting for a while.
jurgen wrote
at 7:57 AM, Thursday November 11, 2010 EST
great to hear lum!

I hope it works because I am too lazy to do it on a big scale by hand but I am so curious for the results
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