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Set Of Rules For MTT (Ideas Stage)
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Cod4 wrote
at 11:54 AM, Monday November 10, 2008 EST
Ok, this will basicly be a page so all members of the kdice community can contribute rules and guidlines that should apply to the Multi Table Tournaments.
Please don't post complaints against other thoughts etc just post your set of rules then the most suitable will be put together to make a complete set of rules. If you include a set of rules make them serious and put into 'Allowed' 'Not Allowed' Thankyou My Thoughts: Not Allowed 1. If you are in first place, let people fight for the other places whenever possible, it's there tournament so let them play it out instead of taking it into your own hands. Use the chatbox be aware of what places the other players want this is more important when it decides if another player is out or not they should be allowed to fight for there right to stay in. (*Other Rules can counter this*) 2. If you are in first place and you make a decision in the chat box to let two people fight it out, don't later change your mind and kill one of the opponents. 3. PGE (Pre Game Alliance) If a truce is NOT announced in the chat box i would consider this cheating, the truce would also have to be mentioned early enough in the game so the remaining players have enough time to counter if they wish to do so. 4. Helping other players considerably without mention of a truce in the chat box 5. Leaving someone with one a small amount of land. Unless this involves a truce or counter Allowed 1. Trucing in game is allowed if announced in the chat 2. Countering a truce is also allowed 3. If in a high rank position killing higher players is a reasonable strategy* 4. If in a low rank position killing higher players is a reasonable strategy* 5. You are allowed to flag for your position early or late in the game unless questioned by first place for a flag at this point decide to flag or fight Feel free to add your own set but again try and keep it serious (Mine isnt complete just what i could think of that moment) |
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Ryan wrote
at 12:25 PM, Monday November 10, 2008 EST I think I'll put together a code of ethics for good sportsmanship in kdice. Hopefully this post can help define things.
To correct cod4. I don't think a truce necessarily needs to be declared in chat. I believe an in game truce can be decided on silently through the way you play, and this is ok. I also think it's ok (although bad character) to change your mind/backstab (except if its done as a favor in hopes of it being repaid in a later game). I think in general you can spot favors/cheating when people do things that in no way contribute to them doing better in the current game. For example (bad play): - you start a silent truce with a neighbor that has no hope of being a threat to you - you sacrifice a higher position to another player when it is easily yours and have no reason from the current game to give this favor - you decide to help another player get a better position when your position is set and have no reason from the current game to give this favor. good play: - You learn how people play and react accordingly. (learn about how people react to truces, who backstabs, etc) - You don't receive favors for being a friend, a nice person, or from helpful play in previous games. - You don't give another player a favor in the hopes of receiving friendly play in future games. - And of course you try and enforce good ethics in games by recognizing and being vocal about bad play. |
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Ryan wrote
at 12:28 PM, Monday November 10, 2008 EST I want to add that this code of ethics will be for ALL games, not just MTT.
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detenmile wrote
at 12:32 PM, Monday November 10, 2008 EST Ryan that post is what we have all been waiting for thank you so much
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rigor mortis wrote
at 12:51 PM, Monday November 10, 2008 EST i don't think it would hurt if it were considered more ethical to announce a truce in the chat. doesn't even have to be an announcement, just something that lets other people know there's something going on that has been decided right now, not in a previous game or on aim or whatever.
this also eliminates the problem of "silent truces with people who are not a threat", which is kinda fuzzy. |
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Ryan wrote
at 12:56 PM, Monday November 10, 2008 EST "silent truces with people who are not a threat"
This definitely is a fuzzy one and one I can't enforce everywhere. But, if I suspect two people playing together or they are already RC'd, depending on how much this other player is not a threat I can personally make a decision to do a point reset. I don't think you have to worry about being caught on this one by accident if you don't have any other suspect behavior with this player. So this one needs to be a consistent thing to identify a problem. I think if you notice this type of play between two people consistently you should be vocal about this truce so that other can act against it. |
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the full monte wrote
at 1:52 PM, Monday November 10, 2008 EST ok now i understand why my points were reset :)
that is indeed a fuzzy area, tbh. trucing someone who is clearly not a threat to you could definitely be a cover-up of favoritism. the large player could just be trying to give the tiny player better placement that is undeserved. but then again, sometimes, its good to leave a nonthreatening neighbor alive, and then drop a couple comments in the chatbox about how they now owe their life to you in this current game, so youve basically forced them into an alliance (you hope). sometimes its better to leave your big stacks at the frontlines instead of use them to kill off a nonthreat, and eventually the nonthreat will build up and (hopefully) help you, since you showed him mercy earlier. but again, i see how this could be a coverup for favoritism. thanks for the explanation Ryan. |
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Thraxle wrote
at 1:55 PM, Monday November 10, 2008 EST Awesome list Ryan. That's what I wanted to see.............your definition of fair and unfair play.
THANK YOU!!!! |
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Mike_Mike wrote
at 1:55 PM, Monday November 10, 2008 EST A code of ethics! What a great start!
I really appreciate this effort, so thanks Cod4 & Ryan. |
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kam|k2 wrote
at 2:02 PM, Monday November 10, 2008 EST i always thought the mob makes the ethics?
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CutePuppies wrote
at 2:13 PM, Monday November 10, 2008 EST This is CuteKittens, I had to make a new account as Ryan disabled my posting privileges.
Ryan I want to hear you make something explicitly clear. Is it OK to use tournament logic, i.e. take out the person that has the most points in a game even though it would violate this: "- you decide to help another player get a better position when your position is set and have no reason from the current game to give this favor." |
