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Interesting chat with some basic statistics from Ryan
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Vermont wrote
at 11:31 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
There was a long chat today where Ryan ran some numbers about how well certain players do with other players. I wasn't copying the chat at the beginning, so unfortunately most of the early chat was lost, but a bunch of it was here. I missed a few spots in the middle, and those are marked as well.
This chat is really long so I removed the stuff from the games that was going on and just left the discussion relating to Ryan's stats in. ------------------------------------ wishbone: this goes to all the accusers Caephus is here Vermont: So of the three people that are supposedly my pgas dasfury: from last month wishbone: SHUT THE FUCK UP Vermont: Two does worse wishbone: BOOOOOOOOM leekstep: lol Vermont: So I am due some apologies I think. RascalKing: ok dasfury: im sorry for pgaing you verm wishbone: verms Vermont: lol das dasfury: i made you worse m_tormenta: wow here is full house dasfury: by not attacking you m_tormenta: hi all wishbone: i appologize that i bring your games down.................. NOT AHHAHAHAHA Vermont: lol das. You are the only one that actually did help me, according to Ryan vicsf: king,let them fight dasfury: oh vicsf: ^^ BatmanDan: ryan will u plz do ledegomeur and olkainry Vermont: monte (who leek says I never fight) was a negative dasfury: by 4 tenths of a place? leekstep: wow my chat box just went old school wishbone: batman: those guys are bad wishbone: who cares about them dasfury: fix teh chat box Vermont: What were the actual verm-monte numbers? dasfury: FIX TEH BOX tomazz is here wishbone: do not fix the box BatmanDan: they pga really bad on the lower tables...its not just the high tables TwoFast is here wishbone: it was my hilarious borat comment that messed it up m_tormenta: the box aint broken! dasfury: NOT wishbone: mines not broken tomazz has left wishbone: das stand wishbone: lol Vermont: Now lets see, if I sit with das and wish vicsf: what is place distance Vermont: That should average out to +.1 for me wishbone: sit down you fool vicsf: what is place distance Vermont: Distance between where two players finish Vermont: 1st vs 3rd, for example uwaga has left Too Gay is here wishbone: is a distance of (2) vicsf: thanks wishbone: ? Vermont: right dasfury: see there is no stat for who you truiced Vermont: (at least, that's how I assume he'd do it) dasfury: thats important vicsf: who is my pga actually as ZEST said i am PGA player dasfury: omg leekstep: oh RYANHERE IS THE IMPORTANT STAT-where does playerX finish when PLAYERY wins the game, and can more effectively change the game leekstep: like in games where das finishes 1st leekstep: where do xyz finish vicsf: long link BatmanDan: that purple i just one massive pga with everyone lol vicsf: leek dasfury: lol uwaga is here Ryan: .. Ryan: oops, big query BatmanDan: wen will int and rnd b allowed to play again? dasfury: shev Vermont: Ryan, what were the actual verm-monte numbers? leekstep: usually 1st place has the best chance to help a buddy, so only look at games where buddies finish first dasfury: it doesnt accoutn for allies made in the chat wishbone: monte will be pissed he missed this convo BatmanDan: monte does worser wen with u leekstep: wish truce? dasfury: yeah wishbone: smeone should have been writing it down BatmanDan: worde** wishbone: YES wishbone: i dont know Vermont: I copied some of it. wishbone: good Vermont: But I missed the beginning. wishbone: keep it for him leekstep: ryan in games where playerX finishes first does playerY finish average 4th or better leekstep: thats the best stat Ryan: im doing avg(abs(k1.place-k2.place)) blackcaesar: i wonder how good the office works together Ryan: the average difference in pace Ryan: between two players dasfury: i need it ok? Ryan: give me two name Ryan: s dasfury: it was only a one? leekstep: but it really only matters when one is firrt wishbone: why am i the only one dying? Vermont: rnd montecarlo Vermont: :) leekstep: cuz 6th place cant really affect much Ryan: ok ...missed some here...lousy small chat window... wishbone: YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME integral: lol leekstep: worst pgas in the game wishbone: absolutely unreal leekstep: delete them wishbone: i had frist BatmanDan: WOW thats who u shud b banning not int n rnd lol wishbone: for sure wishbone: for like 5 rounds blackcaesar: please move your 7 purple MuffinTop: what are you calculating? m_tormenta: nice das leekstep: grisu is part of that pga clan with nexon and l3xy leekstep: so the other 2.6 that they dont get BatmanDan: will someone post that stat on the forum lol leekstep: goes to grisu integral: do integral and rnd though wishbone: there is no point in playing wishbone: l;eek wishbone: flag wishbone: they will all kill you and no one else dasfury: i love a good counter Ryan: vermont with montecarlo is 3.3/3.8 Shevar: a flag would be nice das m_tormenta: flagged 3rd m_tormenta: yeah dasfury: ik dasfury: when i get 2nd dasfury: ill fla Shevar: k BatmanDan: thats a tiny difference Vermont: wow. I go down +.5 playing with monte!!! Vermont: That's a whole half a spot! Vermont: How many games this month? BatmanDan: lol leekstep: but if he has first then you cant also have first RascalKing is here Ryan: 9 games where monte was first leekstep: so it should always go down Ryan: 4 games with dasfury where das was first Ryan: 3.0/3.8 blackcaesar: now i just have to get to 3rd somehoe leekstep: in all games where you didt get first you got X leekstep: vs in games where monte got 1st you got Y integral: nexon is pga with pretty much everyone dasfury: HEY leekstep: i would really just start with nexom and l3xt integral: ryan how many games did I play with rnd this month leekstep: then see if it cleans stuff up m_tormenta: so it is fatser dasfury: stop hitting me Ryan: 14 BatmanDan: lexy 2nd place finish % is like 25 or somethin while her 1st is bout 13% m_tormenta: das integral: who did I play mostly with? dasfury: dasfury: stop hitting me dasfury: stacy m_tormenta: r u sentimantal child? dasfury: lol Ryan: i dont know dasfury: sentimental integral: ya I played a shitload with stacy m_tormenta: thought u were more reasonable leekstep: l3xy is so terrible too, it only works because they always sit 3 from the clan stacy is here Ryan: 9 games with stacy dasfury: there integral: oh dasfury: game voer stacy: mmmm my cue to leave integral: ya right I played alts stacy has left integral: ryan can you do stacy integral ...missed some more here... wishbone: :D wishbone: flagged wishbone: or jsut attack Vermont: biggest gain or most games, Ryan? wishbone: like that wishbone: for no reason vicsf: who is my biggest partner,ryan leekstep: sry wishbone: well what am i supposed to do now? Ryan: when jcp comes first monte does well wishbone: only flagged wishbone: and i die horrible MadHat_Sam: oh oh do me do me! MadHat_Sam: who do I play with? integral: dasfury integral: ? dasfury: yes Vermont: haha. You'd better get this added soon Ryan...you're going to get hundreds of requests. MadHat_Sam: asking Ryan int, not you ;-) vicsf: actually i must win u wish integral: lol sam vicsf: =) Vermont: I really like that 2 out the 3 people I was accused of pgaing, actually bring my score down. wishbone: you must win me? integral: but you haven't died yet wishbone: wth does that mean? Ryan: madhat does well with leekstep das and monte integral: muffin leekstep: lol MuffinTop: yes? integral: when you should have wishbone: you must win me? Vermont: Sam, I would bet we bring each other down. wishbone: that makes no sense? Ryan: im going to check myself vicsf: just my opinion=) MadHat_Sam: lol, I do well with leek, that is funny, ironic irony leekstep: madhat does well with me? MuffinTop: but how can you make that assumption? BatmanDan: lol sam is one massive pga haha .... missed more here...I suck .... Shevar: it was nice indeed integral: ryan can you do stacy integral BatmanDan: so out of ints like 140 games he only played 14 with rnd Sharazan is here integral: i want to see who's winning the pge wishbone: i want a player search stat counter dasfury: do kissygirl and twofast dasfury: from last moth BatmanDan: well thats a pga lol wishbone: did anyone think of that? leekstep: wish leekstep: wishy wish dasfury: shits Ryan: this is going to be a cool stat to add integral: but first fix the sitting in bug integral: i think that should be priority #1 ;) dasfury: and make it so the link to the next page of a post is at the bottom integral: oh yeah dasfury: not after the initial post integral: and old comments if possible dasfury: and maybe dasfury: fix my strats Vermont: and +500 to me for becoming a member integral: oh and ryan integral: I was thinking a cool punishment integral: would be to give people bad luck leekstep: just let me put a permanent note on everyone's profile right at the top Mikeypoo is here integral: like 8v2 losses dasfury: that already happens BatmanDan: lol i must b getting punished now leekstep: thats good enuff dasfury: to me dasfury: at least BatmanDan: me 2 BatmanDan: that and im shit dasfury: i cant win with a 4 stack Mikeypoo: wheres the party? ... sucking more ... vicsf: just in this game=) leekstep: lol MuffinTop: yes? integral: when you should have wishbone: you must win me? Vermont: Sam, I would bet we bring each other down. wishbone: that makes no sense? Ryan: im going to check myself vicsf: just my opinion=) MadHat_Sam: lol, I do well with leek, that is funny, ironic irony leekstep: madhat does well with me? MuffinTop: but how can you make that assumption? BatmanDan: lol sam is one massive pga haha RascalKing has left MuffinTop: I have an 8 stack BatmanDan: =P RascalKing is here MadHat_Sam: leek, we must be PGA ;-) Vermont: leek just likes sophie and gets confused. rigor mortis: no more 8 stack BatmanDan: indeed MuffinTop: well now I did blackcaesar: Too bad that stat doesnt work as good when 3 or 4 people work together BatmanDan has left leekstep: das dammit integral: sure it does integral: 4 epople workign together will get top 4 spots integral: so avg difference would be small blackcaesar: i see, no wonder u have a math name leekstep: yeah wish wishbone: and it got taken leekstep: i am sry leekstep: didnt see the flag leekstep: kgodhere dasfury: leek dasfury: for fucks sake dasfury: kill the guy who flagged last leekstep: what? wishbone: i didnt flag last wishbone: rofl Ryan: das does well with: rnd, lesplaydices, vermont,bcm, wishbone, monte dasfury: i want to stop getting milked integral: haha cabal integral: exposed Ryan: das does poorly with: leek, linch, madhat, integral, nexon, yellowfin, technika Vermont: who are mine Ryan? integral: haha das pwned MuffinTop: Did anyone do me yet? Vermont: since wish and monte won't be on there :) MuffinTop: I'm just wondering about me Mikeypoo: i did you muffin Mikeypoo: ;) integral: do leekstep and me ryan dasfury: int pwns me dasfury: some pga integral: cuz ur the bitch remember dasfury: so does sam dasfury: lol leekstep: what? dasfury: oh yeah dasfury: im the bitch integral: leek and I think and me would have a good one Ryan: leek has a long list integral: you* MadHat_Sam: lol Ryan: he plays too much Ryan: lol leekstep: lol integral: Ryan was does "do well" mean Ryan: ok top 3 for leak dasfury: can you calculate how much of fins life is wasted here this monht integral: do you mean like top 3 finishes? Ryan: leek top 3: Anmondia, 3rdbase, rnd integral: Ryan do me integral: do mine Ryan: leek bottom 3: kam|k, vermont, dasfury Mikeypoo: ryan can calculate which of us is the biggest loser addict Vermont: I haven't played many with leek this month though. BatmanDan is here integral: calculate who signs in more with alts Vermont: Are you factoring number of games here? Mikeypoo: shut up int integral: unlucky or mikey or nuflis or 2fast Mikeypoo: ;) wishbone: sorry integral: lol Mikeypoo: :P Ryan: yeah... i put a minimum games in leekstep: this is the worst teamwork ever Mikeypoo: like i said the biggest loser addict wishbone: well were fucked Mikeypoo: =has too many alts Ryan: verm, you have 32 games with leek MadHat_Sam: or not integral: calculate who talks more than plays integral: i bet I win that one Mikeypoo: im a close second integral: ya Vermont: Wow, I wouldn't have though 32. integral: i don't think I have many wishbone: what are you thinking? Mikeypoo: calculate the post to forum/over games played wishbone: yeah MsCat has left vicsf: leek and wishbone,are u two truced? wishbone: ? wishbone: no vicsf: ok Mikeypoo: i would win RascalKing: see ya Mikeypoo: one game per post wishbone: we ve been attacking all game integral: with all your alts ya integral: but you have to let those alts be known Mikeypoo: integral i say the same to you integral: i don't post with alts vicsf: leek,are u sure u r not truced with wish Mikeypoo: i think we would have a run off fatboy98 is here leekstep: im flagged Mikeypoo: confession: i am kdicefreak integral: you wish Ssergio: bwahaha leekstep: i knew it Mikeypoo: :P Ryan: top forum posters: Mikeypoo: oh lord... Ryan: 1) Ryan Ryan: 2) Skrumgaer dasfury: integral: calculate who talks more than plays dasfury: integral: i bet I win that one Mikeypoo: that must be all time Ryan: 3) JDizzle787 Ssergio: is that volume or quality posts?? leekstep: how bout top forum posters this month ry Vermont: lol das integral: ryan do post dom dasfury: wonder why that is? integral: stats Ryan: 4) kdicefreak integral: das no dasfury: no? integral: i haven't been around much since friday Mikeypoo: thats all time ryan? integral: Ryan could you do who I place well with leekstep: im surprised i do so well with mona jpc4p: Par-tay BatmanDan: everyone does well with mona integral: ur monte's biggest helper Ryan: int: bcm integral: i didn't think I played much with him dasfury: so will we get an email teeling us we are banned? Mikeypoo: ryan do you have a greatest evil manipulator database dasfury: or will it just ahppen dasfury: randomly jpc4p: when? Mikeypoo: i wanna know if leekstep or RND would win integral: jpc ryan's been giving out stats MadHat_Sam: HI SOPHIE jpc4p: in the forum? integral: in chat leekstep: ryan you are wrong about the people who post the most Vermont: I'll post it to the forum Vermont: I missed the beginning Ryan: thats new topics Vermont: But I have most of the rest ... missed just a couple here ... integral: could you make ti so I can play again? MuffinTop: WOOHOO dasfury: umm Mikeypoo: didnt ryan say that muffin was in bed with leek? leekstep: muffin mona and 3b leekstep: all the girls Ryan: muffin's best: big jumblies vermont leekstep integral: hehe MuffinTop: Vermont?? Ryan: muffin's worst: vohaul, rnd BatmanDan: i guess u cant play int jpc4p: so its the stats of who does well when they play with who? MuffinTop: I call shenanigans leekstep: i bet im on a lot of peoples lists integral: no I can Mikeypoo: you dirty girl MuffinTop: because you play a lot jpc4p: and it says Muffin and Leekstep. lol BatmanDan: has he fixed it? integral: Ryan, can you make it so I can play again? MuffinTop: and vermont Vermont: leekmuffin leekstep: my top 3 are all chicks MuffinTop: unbelievable Mikeypoo: i though leekstep didnt pga?? leekstep: mona 3b and muffin! Mikeypoo: im shocked Vermont: lol mikey Ryan: wait muffin MuffinTop: haha Mikeypoo: SHOCKED Ryan: i did that wrong jpc4p: I want to know mine MuffinTop: we prefer muffinstep jpc4p: lol Ryan: muffin's best: yellowfin, rnd, leek jpc4p: oh man integral: lol Ryan: muffins worst: Kam|k longhair jcp jpc4p: muffinstep made me laugh out loud for realz Mikeypoo: interesting *muffin kick vermont out of bed* Vermont: lol mikey MuffinTop: wait jpc4p: hahahahahaha MuffinTop: so I have how many ppl? MuffinTop: JPC?!?! MuffinTop: LOLOLOLOL jpc4p: HA rnd is here vicsf: who is my best ryan jpc4p: WHY CANT ANYONE SPELL MY NAME rnd: you think these are meaningful statistics? jpc4p: it's because muffin and I are PGE sunvic is here MuffinTop: I think they are funny Mikeypoo: EVIL STALKS MuffinTop: because it has nothing to do with the game you're in rnd: i mean you might have something correlating between the lists MuffinTop: it's just a history MadHat_Sam: I am cool back here sergio ;-) leekstep: i cant believe im on madhat sams best list rnd: like you might have a list of people that hold grudges from game to game vicsf: who is my best,ryan jpc4p: can I know mine, Ryan? if it isn't a big deal to look up MadHat_Sam: that is hilarious leek rnd: people that dont play as if nobody has a personality rnd: wont show up on your lists. BatmanDan: can u sit yet rnd? rnd: the game is in progress rnd: so no rnd: :) leekstep: i cant believe the three girls are my top 3 BatmanDan: lol happyworker1: fyio yellwo and teal are allied Mikeypoo: wait jpc and muffin are totally in love with each other how could they be pge? happyworker1: in case no one else noticed jpc4p: PGEZ Vermont: lol dasfury: we are? Mikeypoo: stat makes no sense BatmanDan: the famous le3xy is here rnd is here Mikeypoo: :P BatmanDan: L3xy is here jpc4p: I don't think I've ever attacked Muffin Ryan: ill do l3xy leekstep: l3xy is here? MuffinTop: I do effing hate kamik leekstep: ryan let me guess happyworker1: yep leekstep: grisu, nexon, linch integral: linch nexon integral: grisu ya BatmanDan: lexy with say...nex rnd: so if you are punishing people that hold alliances too long rnd: will you also be punishing people that hold grudges too long? rnd: i mean thats not realy fair. stacy: touche adam Ryan: l3xy best: nexon, redtail, grisu, rageunleashed, fish28, comsmiccomics L3xy: what r u talking about? leekstep: LOL leekstep: LOL leekstep: LOL BatmanDan: hahaha integral: lol Ryan: l3xy worst: leekstep, jpc, montecarlo integral: lol jpc4p: lol L3xy: redtail is my pge ^^ jpc4p: how did I get all these pges leekstep: RYAN- THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM MY NOTEBOOK integral: apparently not Ssergio: who are my worst 3 will do leekstep: skuzzy, linch, nexon, grisu, lexy, snews, cosmicomics Mikeypoo: I hate jpc4 jpc4p: lol Mikeypoo: most hated man in the game leekstep: its a clan dasfury: sserg leekstep: the nighttime cabal Vermont: leek, so was a monte-vermont pga, and you saw how that turned out ;) L3xy: how is snews? MuffinTop: did ryan do the cabal? dasfury: ok Vermont: Only some muffin integral: yeah Vermont: monte and wish screw me ;) integral: Ryan: das does poorly with: leek, linch, madhat, integral, nexon, yellowfin, technika ... missed some here ... Mikeypoo: ryan what is JPC4p's lovers and haters list jpc4p: yes rnd: ryan wishbone: ty jpc4p: I must know rnd: why dont you just precalculate these lists rnd: and put them on peoples profile jpc4p: since muffin is now my pge MuffinTop: yes pge4life jpc4p: 4 EVA Ryan: he doesn't have much jpc4p: oh MuffinTop: I think this 'list' is quite subjective Mikeypoo: you must have been a bad lover jpc4p jpc4p: is that good? Ryan: jpc lover: bcm rnd: and by much wishbone: but NT on it leekstep: ryan just ban nexon l3xy right now jpc4p: hahahahahah wishbone: idiot. Ryan: jpc hater: yellowfin jpc4p: lol jpc4p: wow jpc4p: thanks Ryan Vermont: jpc and fin are going to have a little chat ;) rnd is here leekstep: aim pga integral: oh who's my hater stacy: ME Ryan: k back to work Vermont: Thanks Ryan leekstep: cya ryan! |
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BatmanDan wrote
at 11:36 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST wish and monte make u worse lol
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Cal Ripken wrote
at 11:39 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST bumb.
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BatmanDan wrote
at 11:43 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST wish and monte make u worse lol
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olkainry38 wrote
at 11:43 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST I pga with Robin Hoods and Mickey Mouse too robindan
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olkainry38 wrote
at 11:48 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST ANd, Wishbone you're righ, i'm a very bad boy ! bouhhhhhh
Some people should look at them before speaking... |
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unlucky9999 wrote
at 11:59 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST AWSOME STATISTICS! Can u get eachs in his profile?
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Vermont wrote
at 12:05 PM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST Ryan did mention the possibility of adding them to people's profiles at some point.
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MadHat_Sam wrote
at 12:15 PM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST Ryan: madhat does well with leekstep das and monte
Yeah these stats aren't all they cracked up to be ;-) |
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montecarlo wrote
at 12:19 PM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST i understand that this entire chat was posted just for me, and for that i thank you verm :)
and wish, as usual, was correct, i so hate the fact i wasnt there for this chat. very interesting stat. i stated like a week ago (forget if it was forum or chatbox) that my most trustworthy player this month was jpc, so i think the stat works well. Ryan, could you please explain how the stat is calculated, cus i would love to know. really glad youre looking into these correlations. i believe the best way to find correlations perhaps isnt just looking at one person at a time... i.e. (monte's average finish while jpc is playing) - (monte's average finish without jpc playing). i would rather like to see (monte+jpc finish position)/2 - (monte's average finish position without jpc) and same thing for jpc. then we could see 1) is it good for me and jpc to play with each other (this month it definitely is), and 2) who is the 'bitch' in the relationship. very very intriguing possibilities here. |
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nuflis wrote
at 12:37 PM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST leekstep: ryan just ban nexon l3xy right now
COME ON LEEK, why not ban you and Mona? or das and rnd? (oh, wait) or muffin and yellowfin?... or better BAN EVERYONE WHO HAS GOOD STATS WITH OTHER PLAYERS. Of course, I guess just the trolls should be banned... Interesting stats Ryan. Thx again. Tired of see good players accusing other good players, Nuf |