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Interesting chat with some basic statistics from Ryan
Vermont wrote
at 11:31 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
There was a long chat today where Ryan ran some numbers about how well certain players do with other players. I wasn't copying the chat at the beginning, so unfortunately most of the early chat was lost, but a bunch of it was here. I missed a few spots in the middle, and those are marked as well.

This chat is really long so I removed the stuff from the games that was going on and just left the discussion relating to Ryan's stats in.

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wishbone: this goes to all the accusers
Caephus is here
Vermont: So of the three people that are supposedly my pgas
dasfury: from last month
wishbone: SHUT THE FUCK UP
Vermont: Two does worse
wishbone: BOOOOOOOOM
leekstep: lol
Vermont: So I am due some apologies I think.
RascalKing: ok
dasfury: im sorry for pgaing you verm
wishbone: verms
Vermont: lol das
dasfury: i made you worse
m_tormenta: wow here is full house
dasfury: by not attacking you
m_tormenta: hi all
wishbone: i appologize that i bring your games down.................. NOT AHHAHAHAHA
Vermont: lol das. You are the only one that actually did help me, according to Ryan
vicsf: king,let them fight
dasfury: oh
vicsf: ^^
BatmanDan: ryan will u plz do ledegomeur and olkainry
Vermont: monte (who leek says I never fight) was a negative
dasfury: by 4 tenths of a place?
leekstep: wow my chat box just went old school
wishbone: batman: those guys are bad
wishbone: who cares about them
dasfury: fix teh chat box
Vermont: What were the actual verm-monte numbers?
dasfury: FIX TEH BOX
tomazz is here
wishbone: do not fix the box
BatmanDan: they pga really bad on the lower tables...its not just the high tables
TwoFast is here
wishbone: it was my hilarious borat comment that messed it up
m_tormenta: the box aint broken!
dasfury: NOT
wishbone: mines not broken
tomazz has left
wishbone: das stand
wishbone: lol
Vermont: Now lets see, if I sit with das and wish
vicsf: what is place distance
Vermont: That should average out to +.1 for me
wishbone: sit down you fool
vicsf: what is place distance
Vermont: Distance between where two players finish
Vermont: 1st vs 3rd, for example
uwaga has left
Too Gay is here
wishbone: is a distance of (2)
vicsf: thanks
wishbone: ?
Vermont: right
dasfury: see there is no stat for who you truiced
Vermont: (at least, that's how I assume he'd do it)
dasfury: thats important
vicsf: who is my pga actually as ZEST said i am PGA player
dasfury: omg
leekstep: oh RYANHERE IS THE IMPORTANT STAT-where does playerX finish when PLAYERY wins the game, and can more effectively change the game
leekstep: like in games where das finishes 1st
leekstep: where do xyz finish
vicsf: long link
BatmanDan: that purple i just one massive pga with everyone lol
vicsf: leek
dasfury: lol
uwaga is here
Ryan: ..
Ryan: oops, big query
BatmanDan: wen will int and rnd b allowed to play again?
dasfury: shev
Vermont: Ryan, what were the actual verm-monte numbers?
leekstep: usually 1st place has the best chance to help a buddy, so only look at games where buddies finish first
dasfury: it doesnt accoutn for allies made in the chat
wishbone: monte will be pissed he missed this convo
BatmanDan: monte does worser wen with u
leekstep: wish truce?
dasfury: yeah
wishbone: smeone should have been writing it down
BatmanDan: worde**
wishbone: YES
wishbone: i dont know
Vermont: I copied some of it.
wishbone: good
Vermont: But I missed the beginning.
wishbone: keep it for him
leekstep: ryan in games where playerX finishes first does playerY finish average 4th or better
leekstep: thats the best stat
Ryan: im doing avg(abs(k1.place-k2.place))
blackcaesar: i wonder how good the office works together
Ryan: the average difference in pace
Ryan: between two players
dasfury: i need it ok?
Ryan: give me two name
Ryan: s
dasfury: it was only a one?
leekstep: but it really only matters when one is firrt
wishbone: why am i the only one dying?
Vermont: rnd montecarlo
Vermont: :)
leekstep: cuz 6th place cant really affect much
Ryan: ok

...missed some here...lousy small chat window...

wishbone: YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING ME
integral: lol
leekstep: worst pgas in the game
wishbone: absolutely unreal
leekstep: delete them
wishbone: i had frist
BatmanDan: WOW thats who u shud b banning not int n rnd lol
wishbone: for sure
wishbone: for like 5 rounds
blackcaesar: please move your 7 purple
MuffinTop: what are you calculating?
m_tormenta: nice das
leekstep: grisu is part of that pga clan with nexon and l3xy
leekstep: so the other 2.6 that they dont get
BatmanDan: will someone post that stat on the forum lol
leekstep: goes to grisu
integral: do integral and rnd though
wishbone: there is no point in playing
wishbone: l;eek
wishbone: flag
wishbone: they will all kill you and no one else
dasfury: i love a good counter
Ryan: vermont with montecarlo is 3.3/3.8
Shevar: a flag would be nice das
m_tormenta: flagged 3rd
m_tormenta: yeah
dasfury: ik
dasfury: when i get 2nd
dasfury: ill fla
Shevar: k
BatmanDan: thats a tiny difference
Vermont: wow. I go down +.5 playing with monte!!!
Vermont: That's a whole half a spot!
Vermont: How many games this month?
BatmanDan: lol
leekstep: but if he has first then you cant also have first
RascalKing is here
Ryan: 9 games where monte was first
leekstep: so it should always go down
Ryan: 4 games with dasfury where das was first
Ryan: 3.0/3.8
blackcaesar: now i just have to get to 3rd somehoe
leekstep: in all games where you didt get first you got X
leekstep: vs in games where monte got 1st you got Y
integral: nexon is pga with pretty much everyone
dasfury: HEY
leekstep: i would really just start with nexom and l3xt
integral: ryan how many games did I play with rnd this month
leekstep: then see if it cleans stuff up
m_tormenta: so it is fatser
dasfury: stop hitting me
Ryan: 14
BatmanDan: lexy 2nd place finish % is like 25 or somethin while her 1st is bout 13%
m_tormenta: das
integral: who did I play mostly with?
dasfury: dasfury: stop hitting me
dasfury: stacy
m_tormenta: r u sentimantal child?
dasfury: lol
Ryan: i dont know
dasfury: sentimental
integral: ya I played a shitload with stacy
m_tormenta: thought u were more reasonable
leekstep: l3xy is so terrible too, it only works because they always sit 3 from the clan
stacy is here
Ryan: 9 games with stacy
dasfury: there
integral: oh
dasfury: game voer
stacy: mmmm my cue to leave
integral: ya right I played alts
stacy has left
integral: ryan can you do stacy integral

...missed some more here...

wishbone: :D
wishbone: flagged
wishbone: or jsut attack
Vermont: biggest gain or most games, Ryan?
wishbone: like that
wishbone: for no reason
vicsf: who is my biggest partner,ryan
leekstep: sry
wishbone: well what am i supposed to do now?
Ryan: when jcp comes first monte does well
wishbone: only flagged
wishbone: and i die horrible
MadHat_Sam: oh oh do me do me!
MadHat_Sam: who do I play with?
integral: dasfury
integral: ?
dasfury: yes
Vermont: haha. You'd better get this added soon Ryan...you're going to get hundreds of requests.
MadHat_Sam: asking Ryan int, not you ;-)
vicsf: actually i must win u wish
integral: lol sam
vicsf: =)
Vermont: I really like that 2 out the 3 people I was accused of pgaing, actually bring my score down.
wishbone: you must win me?
integral: but you haven't died yet
wishbone: wth does that mean?
Ryan: madhat does well with leekstep das and monte
integral: muffin
leekstep: lol
MuffinTop: yes?
integral: when you should have
wishbone: you must win me?
Vermont: Sam, I would bet we bring each other down.
wishbone: that makes no sense?
Ryan: im going to check myself
vicsf: just my opinion=)
MadHat_Sam: lol, I do well with leek, that is funny, ironic irony
leekstep: madhat does well with me?
MuffinTop: but how can you make that assumption?
BatmanDan: lol sam is one massive pga haha

.... missed more here...I suck ....

Shevar: it was nice indeed
integral: ryan can you do stacy integral
BatmanDan: so out of ints like 140 games he only played 14 with rnd
Sharazan is here
integral: i want to see who's winning the pge
wishbone: i want a player search stat counter
dasfury: do kissygirl and twofast
dasfury: from last moth
BatmanDan: well thats a pga lol
wishbone: did anyone think of that?
leekstep: wish
leekstep: wishy wish
dasfury: shits
Ryan: this is going to be a cool stat to add
integral: but first fix the sitting in bug
integral: i think that should be priority #1 ;)
dasfury: and make it so the link to the next page of a post is at the bottom
integral: oh yeah
dasfury: not after the initial post
integral: and old comments if possible
dasfury: and maybe
dasfury: fix my strats
Vermont: and +500 to me for becoming a member
integral: oh and ryan
integral: I was thinking a cool punishment
integral: would be to give people bad luck
leekstep: just let me put a permanent note on everyone's profile right at the top
Mikeypoo is here
integral: like 8v2 losses
dasfury: that already happens
BatmanDan: lol i must b getting punished now
leekstep: thats good enuff
dasfury: to me
dasfury: at least
BatmanDan: me 2
BatmanDan: that and im shit
dasfury: i cant win with a 4 stack
Mikeypoo: wheres the party?

... sucking more ...

vicsf: just in this game=)
leekstep: lol
MuffinTop: yes?
integral: when you should have
wishbone: you must win me?
Vermont: Sam, I would bet we bring each other down.
wishbone: that makes no sense?
Ryan: im going to check myself
vicsf: just my opinion=)
MadHat_Sam: lol, I do well with leek, that is funny, ironic irony
leekstep: madhat does well with me?
MuffinTop: but how can you make that assumption?
BatmanDan: lol sam is one massive pga haha
RascalKing has left
MuffinTop: I have an 8 stack
BatmanDan: =P
RascalKing is here
MadHat_Sam: leek, we must be PGA ;-)
Vermont: leek just likes sophie and gets confused.
rigor mortis: no more 8 stack
BatmanDan: indeed
MuffinTop: well now I did
blackcaesar: Too bad that stat doesnt work as good when 3 or 4 people work together
BatmanDan has left
leekstep: das dammit
integral: sure it does
integral: 4 epople workign together will get top 4 spots
integral: so avg difference would be small
blackcaesar: i see, no wonder u have a math name
leekstep: yeah wish
wishbone: and it got taken
leekstep: i am sry
leekstep: didnt see the flag
leekstep: kgodhere
dasfury: leek
dasfury: for fucks sake
dasfury: kill the guy who flagged last
leekstep: what?
wishbone: i didnt flag last
wishbone: rofl
Ryan: das does well with: rnd, lesplaydices, vermont,bcm, wishbone, monte
dasfury: i want to stop getting milked
integral: haha cabal
integral: exposed
Ryan: das does poorly with: leek, linch, madhat, integral, nexon, yellowfin, technika
Vermont: who are mine Ryan?
integral: haha das pwned
MuffinTop: Did anyone do me yet?
Vermont: since wish and monte won't be on there :)
MuffinTop: I'm just wondering about me
Mikeypoo: i did you muffin
Mikeypoo: ;)
integral: do leekstep and me ryan
dasfury: int pwns me
dasfury: some pga
integral: cuz ur the bitch remember
dasfury: so does sam
dasfury: lol
leekstep: what?
dasfury: oh yeah
dasfury: im the bitch
integral: leek and I think and me would have a good one
Ryan: leek has a long list
integral: you*
MadHat_Sam: lol
Ryan: he plays too much
Ryan: lol
leekstep: lol
integral: Ryan was does "do well" mean
Ryan: ok top 3 for leak
dasfury: can you calculate how much of fins life is wasted here this monht
integral: do you mean like top 3 finishes?
Ryan: leek top 3: Anmondia, 3rdbase, rnd
integral: Ryan do me
integral: do mine
Ryan: leek bottom 3: kam|k, vermont, dasfury
Mikeypoo: ryan can calculate which of us is the biggest loser addict
Vermont: I haven't played many with leek this month though.
BatmanDan is here
integral: calculate who signs in more with alts
Vermont: Are you factoring number of games here?
Mikeypoo: shut up int
integral: unlucky or mikey or nuflis or 2fast
Mikeypoo: ;)
wishbone: sorry
integral: lol
Mikeypoo: :P
Ryan: yeah... i put a minimum games in
leekstep: this is the worst teamwork ever
Mikeypoo: like i said the biggest loser addict
wishbone: well were fucked
Mikeypoo: =has too many alts
Ryan: verm, you have 32 games with leek
MadHat_Sam: or not
integral: calculate who talks more than plays
integral: i bet I win that one
Mikeypoo: im a close second
integral: ya
Vermont: Wow, I wouldn't have though 32.
integral: i don't think I have many
wishbone: what are you thinking?
Mikeypoo: calculate the post to forum/over games played
wishbone: yeah
MsCat has left
vicsf: leek and wishbone,are u two truced?
wishbone: ?
wishbone: no
vicsf: ok
Mikeypoo: i would win
RascalKing: see ya
Mikeypoo: one game per post
wishbone: we ve been attacking all game
integral: with all your alts ya
integral: but you have to let those alts be known
Mikeypoo: integral i say the same to you
integral: i don't post with alts
vicsf: leek,are u sure u r not truced with wish
Mikeypoo: i think we would have a run off
fatboy98 is here
leekstep: im flagged
Mikeypoo: confession: i am kdicefreak
integral: you wish
Ssergio: bwahaha
leekstep: i knew it
Mikeypoo: :P
Ryan: top forum posters:
Mikeypoo: oh lord...
Ryan: 1) Ryan
Ryan: 2) Skrumgaer
dasfury: integral: calculate who talks more than plays
dasfury: integral: i bet I win that one
Mikeypoo: that must be all time
Ryan: 3) JDizzle787
Ssergio: is that volume or quality posts??
leekstep: how bout top forum posters this month ry
Vermont: lol das
integral: ryan do post dom
dasfury: wonder why that is?
integral: stats
Ryan: 4) kdicefreak
integral: das no
dasfury: no?
integral: i haven't been around much since friday
Mikeypoo: thats all time ryan?
integral: Ryan could you do who I place well with
leekstep: im surprised i do so well with mona
jpc4p: Par-tay
BatmanDan: everyone does well with mona
integral: ur monte's biggest helper
Ryan: int: bcm
integral: i didn't think I played much with him
dasfury: so will we get an email teeling us we are banned?
Mikeypoo: ryan do you have a greatest evil manipulator database
dasfury: or will it just ahppen
dasfury: randomly
jpc4p: when?
Mikeypoo: i wanna know if leekstep or RND would win
integral: jpc ryan's been giving out stats
MadHat_Sam: HI SOPHIE
jpc4p: in the forum?
integral: in chat
leekstep: ryan you are wrong about the people who post the most
Vermont: I'll post it to the forum
Vermont: I missed the beginning
Ryan: thats new topics
Vermont: But I have most of the rest

... missed just a couple here ...

integral: could you make ti so I can play again?
MuffinTop: WOOHOO
dasfury: umm
Mikeypoo: didnt ryan say that muffin was in bed with leek?
leekstep: muffin mona and 3b
leekstep: all the girls
Ryan: muffin's best: big jumblies vermont leekstep
integral: hehe
MuffinTop: Vermont??
Ryan: muffin's worst: vohaul, rnd
BatmanDan: i guess u cant play int
jpc4p: so its the stats of who does well when they play with who?
MuffinTop: I call shenanigans
leekstep: i bet im on a lot of peoples lists
integral: no I can
Mikeypoo: you dirty girl
MuffinTop: because you play a lot
jpc4p: and it says Muffin and Leekstep. lol
BatmanDan: has he fixed it?
integral: Ryan, can you make it so I can play again?
MuffinTop: and vermont
Vermont: leekmuffin
leekstep: my top 3 are all chicks
MuffinTop: unbelievable
Mikeypoo: i though leekstep didnt pga??
leekstep: mona 3b and muffin!
Mikeypoo: im shocked
Vermont: lol mikey
Ryan: wait muffin
MuffinTop: haha
Mikeypoo: SHOCKED
Ryan: i did that wrong
jpc4p: I want to know mine
MuffinTop: we prefer muffinstep
jpc4p: lol
Ryan: muffin's best: yellowfin, rnd, leek
jpc4p: oh man
integral: lol
Ryan: muffins worst: Kam|k longhair jcp
jpc4p: muffinstep made me laugh out loud for realz
Mikeypoo: interesting *muffin kick vermont out of bed*
Vermont: lol mikey
MuffinTop: wait
jpc4p: hahahahahaha
MuffinTop: so I have how many ppl?
MuffinTop: JPC?!?!
MuffinTop: LOLOLOLOL
jpc4p: HA
rnd is here
vicsf: who is my best ryan
jpc4p: WHY CANT ANYONE SPELL MY NAME
rnd: you think these are meaningful statistics?
jpc4p: it's because muffin and I are PGE
sunvic is here
MuffinTop: I think they are funny
Mikeypoo: EVIL STALKS
MuffinTop: because it has nothing to do with the game you're in
rnd: i mean you might have something correlating between the lists
MuffinTop: it's just a history
MadHat_Sam: I am cool back here sergio ;-)
leekstep: i cant believe im on madhat sams best list
rnd: like you might have a list of people that hold grudges from game to game
vicsf: who is my best,ryan
jpc4p: can I know mine, Ryan? if it isn't a big deal to look up
MadHat_Sam: that is hilarious leek
rnd: people that dont play as if nobody has a personality
rnd: wont show up on your lists.
BatmanDan: can u sit yet rnd?
rnd: the game is in progress
rnd: so no
rnd: :)
leekstep: i cant believe the three girls are my top 3
BatmanDan: lol
happyworker1: fyio yellwo and teal are allied
Mikeypoo: wait jpc and muffin are totally in love with each other how could they be pge?
happyworker1: in case no one else noticed
jpc4p: PGEZ
Vermont: lol
dasfury: we are?
Mikeypoo: stat makes no sense
BatmanDan: the famous le3xy is here
rnd is here
Mikeypoo: :P
BatmanDan: L3xy is here
jpc4p: I don't think I've ever attacked Muffin
Ryan: ill do l3xy
leekstep: l3xy is here?
MuffinTop: I do effing hate kamik
leekstep: ryan let me guess
happyworker1: yep
leekstep: grisu, nexon, linch
integral: linch nexon
integral: grisu ya
BatmanDan: lexy with say...nex
rnd: so if you are punishing people that hold alliances too long
rnd: will you also be punishing people that hold grudges too long?
rnd: i mean thats not realy fair.
stacy: touche adam
Ryan: l3xy best: nexon, redtail, grisu, rageunleashed, fish28, comsmiccomics
L3xy: what r u talking about?
leekstep: LOL
leekstep: LOL
leekstep: LOL
BatmanDan: hahaha
integral: lol
Ryan: l3xy worst: leekstep, jpc, montecarlo
integral: lol
jpc4p: lol
L3xy: redtail is my pge ^^
jpc4p: how did I get all these pges
leekstep: RYAN- THIS IS STRAIGHT FROM MY NOTEBOOK
integral: apparently not
Ssergio: who are my worst 3 will do
leekstep: skuzzy, linch, nexon, grisu, lexy, snews, cosmicomics
Mikeypoo: I hate jpc4
jpc4p: lol
Mikeypoo: most hated man in the game
leekstep: its a clan
dasfury: sserg
leekstep: the nighttime cabal
Vermont: leek, so was a monte-vermont pga, and you saw how that turned out ;)
L3xy: how is snews?
MuffinTop: did ryan do the cabal?
dasfury: ok
Vermont: Only some muffin
integral: yeah
Vermont: monte and wish screw me ;)
integral: Ryan: das does poorly with: leek, linch, madhat, integral, nexon, yellowfin, technika

... missed some here ...

Mikeypoo: ryan what is JPC4p's lovers and haters list
jpc4p: yes
rnd: ryan
wishbone: ty
jpc4p: I must know
rnd: why dont you just precalculate these lists
rnd: and put them on peoples profile
jpc4p: since muffin is now my pge
MuffinTop: yes pge4life
jpc4p: 4 EVA
Ryan: he doesn't have much
jpc4p: oh
MuffinTop: I think this 'list' is quite subjective
Mikeypoo: you must have been a bad lover jpc4p
jpc4p: is that good?
Ryan: jpc lover: bcm
rnd: and by much
wishbone: but NT on it
leekstep: ryan just ban nexon l3xy right now
jpc4p: hahahahahah
wishbone: idiot.
Ryan: jpc hater: yellowfin
jpc4p: lol
jpc4p: wow
jpc4p: thanks Ryan
Vermont: jpc and fin are going to have a little chat ;)
rnd is here
leekstep: aim pga
integral: oh who's my hater
stacy: ME
Ryan: k back to work
Vermont: Thanks Ryan
leekstep: cya ryan!

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BatmanDan wrote
at 11:36 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
wish and monte make u worse lol
Cal Ripken wrote
at 11:39 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
bumb.
BatmanDan wrote
at 11:43 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
wish and monte make u worse lol
olkainry38 wrote
at 11:43 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
I pga with Robin Hoods and Mickey Mouse too robindan
olkainry38 wrote
at 11:48 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
ANd, Wishbone you're righ, i'm a very bad boy ! bouhhhhhh

Some people should look at them before speaking...
unlucky9999 wrote
at 11:59 AM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
AWSOME STATISTICS! Can u get eachs in his profile?
Vermont wrote
at 12:05 PM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
Ryan did mention the possibility of adding them to people's profiles at some point.
MadHat_Sam wrote
at 12:15 PM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
Ryan: madhat does well with leekstep das and monte

Yeah these stats aren't all they cracked up to be ;-)
montecarlo wrote
at 12:19 PM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
i understand that this entire chat was posted just for me, and for that i thank you verm :)

and wish, as usual, was correct, i so hate the fact i wasnt there for this chat.

very interesting stat. i stated like a week ago (forget if it was forum or chatbox) that my most trustworthy player this month was jpc, so i think the stat works well.

Ryan, could you please explain how the stat is calculated, cus i would love to know. really glad youre looking into these correlations. i believe the best way to find correlations perhaps isnt just looking at one person at a time... i.e. (monte's average finish while jpc is playing) - (monte's average finish without jpc playing). i would rather like to see (monte+jpc finish position)/2 - (monte's average finish position without jpc) and same thing for jpc. then we could see 1) is it good for me and jpc to play with each other (this month it definitely is), and 2) who is the 'bitch' in the relationship.

very very intriguing possibilities here.
nuflis wrote
at 12:37 PM, Tuesday January 22, 2008 EST
leekstep: ryan just ban nexon l3xy right now

COME ON LEEK, why not ban you and Mona? or das and rnd? (oh, wait) or muffin and yellowfin?... or better BAN EVERYONE WHO HAS GOOD STATS WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

Of course, I guess just the trolls should be banned...

Interesting stats Ryan. Thx again.

Tired of see good players accusing other good players,

Nuf
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