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Stop accusing and start learning...
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MuffinTop wrote
at 12:58 PM, Tuesday January 15, 2008 EST
This is not a discussion of larger team play pga-ing in game.
This is a reply to the constant accusations that I see in game against usually first and second. I'll set a hypothetical situation -- You're holding first or second in a game adjacent to someone holding another high rank in-game. You have no hit each other all game. Low ranked player announces that you are pga with your neighbor. To the two accused players -- this is not the case. It is the fact that you have not hit each other that you have had success in this game. There was no pre-determined truce. It was the path you chose to get where you are in the game. But... low placing player disagrees with your strategy. So, they call you pga. Many players been so quick to point fingers and attribute someone's in-game success to pga that I'm finding it rather annoying. You're losing because you got a worse start/bad strategy whatever. You can't possibly fathom that you EARNED your place at the bottom. Just because you think someone should make a move on the board and they don't doesn't mean they are pga -- it means that they have a different playing style than you do. For me, I don't mind holding second and attacking third. Why would I attack first? So first and third can gang up on me? I would rather force third to flag for their position. This is strategy that I have had a lot of success with -- not pga. Know that you're not k-god and you cannot control/predict every single players move on the board and that it is not pga -- it is people looking to gain the most points they can in a game. When I see people whining about random pga at tables, I classify you under the suck-ass category. Always playing for first and being taken out of games quickly because you have no skill to read the board. If you put as much effort into whining as you did into actually learning how to work the map -- you wouldn't have to make false accusations. You could actually win a game. I can see you using a pga accusation as a subverted strategy, but I have rarely seen success in this and well... I don't think you're that bright to utilize it successfully either. |
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PGA Monitor wrote
at 1:05 PM, Tuesday January 15, 2008 EST "click" slaps handcuffs on muffin.
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Mikeypoo wrote
at 3:56 PM, Tuesday January 15, 2008 EST Extremely well put Muffin!! I agree with you almost entirely.
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Minkasa wrote
at 9:43 PM, Wednesday January 16, 2008 EST nah. i call people pga all the time. then they'll attack each other and then i can win. it's a good strat.
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MuffinTop wrote
at 1:17 AM, Thursday January 17, 2008 EST I see that someone ublocked kdice...
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Big Jumblies wrote
at 1:44 AM, Thursday January 17, 2008 EST Good Post.
I just finished a game with ClarkeBar, I dont think I've ever played with him before... but, I left him alone and he left me alone, purple was all over him and he flagged for 2nd. Purple kept attacking him so I joined in to help him and I got beat down to one territory as he concentrated on me. Clarkebar finally got some good rolls and tore him up during that, surrounding my 1 stack and left me alive. In the meantime yellow was beating on purple too, and flagged for 2nd. So I sat and waited, as it was in my best interest for a possible 1st. Purple got killed and clarke proceeded to fight it out with yellow and won. On the surface this probably looked like a pga, as he left me alive and protected. Well, his strategy worked because after he eliminated yellow, his last attack was on me before his 2nd flag registered and he got 1st. No one actually said "PGA" but I was expecting it because whenever someone loses, thats the first thing they say regardless. |
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Mutti wrote
at 2:55 AM, Thursday January 17, 2008 EST you're right and you're wrong...
Top players play a lot more carefull and are afraid of making enemies ("... can I take your 2 stack please ..." " ... I am happy with third, blue ..."). To new players this looks like an unspoken alliance against them, it looks like the top-player-mafia is fighting with different weapons, it feels unfair. Top players (some do...) should involve the newbies, there is a chat, it's a social game. The accusing of pga is also an annoing strategie itself. Some players do it constantly and iit is getting on my nerves. I do believe, that a lot of the top players have allies, try to keep the territory amongst themself. Having pre-game-allies helps gaining points. Thats the way this game is set up. As long as the game offers advantages to pga-players, players will pga. |
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unlucky9999 wrote
at 4:53 AM, Thursday January 17, 2008 EST I agree with most of u said Mutti. Indeed, top players are afraid to make enemies and it can be used quite well actually
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nuflis wrote
at 5:52 AM, Thursday January 17, 2008 EST "Indeed, top players are afraid to make enemies and it can be used quite well actually"
Unlucky!!!!! that's wrong, you are a top player and you are always looking for new PGEs. |
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RageUnleashed wrote
at 7:40 AM, Thursday January 17, 2008 EST Im an exception m8 ;) im playing for killing now, so i can get some pge's for more fun ;) and besides, idiots might not understand that pge's are BAD for u :D
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PGA Monitor wrote
at 11:13 AM, Thursday January 17, 2008 EST Idiots. I believe the last four posters ^^^
are the same person. Which shows the corrupt nature of Kdice at the moment. Therefore i am leaving Kdice. Do Not attempt to contact me. Its over. |