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The new flagging system is a mess in practice
donnie darko wrote
at 7:11 AM, Thursday January 3, 2008 EST
I would not have expected this; I thought this was a great idea. Well, during most games I have played it just lead to bad karma on the tables instead. Discussions who should be what place or punk leaders categorically destroying those first who ranked themselves highest by flag.

Both aspects suck substantially. First, Kdice is not about discussing who's best, but making facts by being the better conqueror. Second, the game system should not invite underprivileged retards to reverse fair table orders. If they think the real world is not fair to them, don't give them 'that feeling' of giving something back. Kdice is not your therapist!

One might argue, that you cannot prevent this behavior and that the new flagging hasn't got anything to do with it at all. But just look at the new tables. The new flagging just creates a lot more stir and that's what the underpivileged wannabe punks are desperatly searching. If you have 3 or 4 players all agreeing on a fair rank and flagged and a bug in the corner behind the leader who does preventing an automatic end. Just imagine all the shouting the little attention whore gets, when attacking the pack in reverse order.

With the old flagging one could say, stop whining or flag. With the new system you are flagged, but forced to give the leader a stage for his exclusive and often childish endgame.

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LionGazoz wrote
at 8:29 AM, Thursday January 3, 2008 EST
Excuxe me Donnie, but i dont share ur opinione in this matter. I had not the same experience about childish behaviour...i cannot see, that the nes system leads to a mess...

Maybe cuz i dont notice if someone argues in the chatbox. I don“t care...

But I think the new flagging system leads very often to a shorter endgame...it often happens that the game ends before the dominant players has to conquer the 4th, the 3rd and then he 2nd, which can take ages...

so the flagging system beware us of boring and lame endgames...
donnie darko wrote
at 9:12 AM, Thursday January 3, 2008 EST
Maybe. My statistical base so far is micro tiny.
yellowfin wrote
at 9:18 AM, Thursday January 3, 2008 EST
Disagree. By telling a player he has to put up flag or you will attack makes backstabbing less likely to occur. Only thing I dont like about it, is you can flag but still attack the one you flagged to, therefore maintain maximum place but screw the leader at some point
g00b2 wrote
at 9:19 AM, Thursday January 3, 2008 EST
WHAT THE SHIT IS A "forced resign"?
know_it_all wrote
at 11:04 AM, Thursday January 3, 2008 EST
the new flag system is WAY better than before. but i am sure some people will find ways to cheat.
Psylight wrote
at 11:31 AM, Thursday January 3, 2008 EST
Well, one way or another, if it really hurts kdice, Ryan will change it. Ryan's been very consistent about changing things for the better. Relax and watch about how players learn to use it. It's a very new feature.
Andibert wrote
at 7:36 PM, Thursday January 3, 2008 EST
If i flag as 2nd.

Do i still lose dom?

Whith the old flagging system I flagged if the game looked hopeless.
So i could save at least my dom points.

But now i cant flag instantly.
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