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using lies as politics in play (about vohaul)
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mike@in-russia wrote
at 7:46 AM, Saturday May 12, 2007 EDT
Sorry. I cannot answer vohaul's post.
So i make this another thread. What can I answer to vohaul’s lie? I always keep my word. All who meet me in play they can confirm my words. And I always tell truth. This is the principle of my life for my reputation ensuring. And now what can I write about this tissue of lies written by vohaul? I have 2 (two) accounts only: mike@in-russia and e-michael. I never hide that both accounts belong to me. I use the same avatar in both accounts for never deceive people. Anyone can see always I’m the same person under both my accounts. I never use both my accounts at the same time. I never use both my accounts at the same table. When I log in my one account I log out other before that. I believe Ryan could easily verify my words by looking to logs. I play from 2 places: my home and my work – very limited number of ip-addresses. Further: Longhair is not my account. Furthermore I think he has problems with English. Hi didn’t accept my friend’s invitation even after my messages written into his profile. At the same time longhair wrote that I’m his friend. Further. There is one principle I follow in the game. I don’t hit my friends except for very sharp need. There is the list of my friends: 2fast, Aboirecibole, Afterdark, Agustina, AnMoNiDa, Bahaduras, Blondie, Cubs, DiceLord, Falstaff^^, g-rizzler, hawkeyes, Joanna, Jose Jalapeno, Kaio, Kalkir, Keevan, Killer Instinct, Kisamos, Konstak, Krusader, longhair, lucky luke, manbearpig, Matthias84, Mikeypoo, MissBaBy, Morche!, Mr.Anderson, natman, newaccountx3, Nice Guy, Nube, panplen, perbert, pia, Quenton, R.C.Fire, Sandro01, SarahPlaying, ShitHappens, skel, SoulSlasher, stacy, tillcologne, TomKite, Tweety91, TwoFast, Xandre, XicaDaSilva, Yotsuya. More than 50 friends. Every time i meet them in play i follow my concept: “i do not hit my friends except for very sharp need†Every time they meet me in play they make their own decision: do hit me or do not hit me. I think this cannot be treated as PGA. Besides that in every game I make decision of alliance with anyone in play. If I ally with somebody I give my word to him/her and then I follow my word given to my ally. This alliance is higher for me than to follow friendship because I have to keep my word. And now you can decide: Is this pre-ally? I think this is not pre-ally, this is not PGA, Since this principle of friendship for me is my own one-side decision. Furthermore this is usually more hard for me to play at one table with my friend because this way I often lose interesting opportunities. That play with vohaul I had to friends at the same table: 2fast and longhair. To follow my principle I didn’t hit my friends. Accidentally they both decided to not hit me too. This was their own decision. We didn’t discuss that before the play and we didn’t make agreement about that. So I believe this is not pre-ally, this is not PGA. Just conditions were composed such way. Vohaul that play was looser. And after that he behaved not like man. He behaved like noisy woman. He started to look for reasons of his losing not in his bad play but in imaginary collusion and supposed simultaneous use of 2 accounts by one player. Vohaul tell lies making the lie his policy. This is very bad practice to make politics by lie. What purposes does vohaul want to reach by this lie? I think he want to reach 2 purposes: 1. he wants to make me change my behavior towards my friends 2. he wants to unite players against common enemy making me such enemy for all. This way Vohaul will become “Hero†fighting against common enemy and this way he can reach better results in play I never change my behavior towards my friends. To make or not make Vohaul be “hero†may be your decision But I think that lie he used for making politics is bad way |
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Vohaul wrote
at 2:26 PM, Saturday May 12, 2007 EDT Vohaul's lie eh? What lie is that exactly?
That you identify yourself as mike@in-russia as a comment in Longhair's profile as Longhair himself? http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4813/mike4ix0.gif Or maybe it was a one word response to a "mike@in-russia" comment, even though just your name was the only comment... and no comment below your name was listed http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1421/mike7oy7.gif Obviously nothing to these "lies", even though the comment has suddenly been deleted from your.. I mean "Longhair's" profile. I mean after all, why be ashamed of the truth right? Or maybe myself, Ghostface, and Dice-K are liars when it was noticed that not only did you and your alt not hit ever each other... but also attacked both the leaders and flagged players to ensure 1st and 2nd in multiple games. Or maybe the fact that a truce between you "two" was never mentioned in the chatbox at any point in the multiple games is a lie? So lets recap your truth: 1. Longhair is not your alternate even though "he" posts only your name there as an ID, and not as a response to one of your comments below. 2. This concept is so far off base that the comment has been erased at the time of this reply. 3. These identities are not used to PGA, even though you not only never attack each other, but attack other players in order to get 1st and 2nd, and that this happens in multiple games. 4. Not a PGA when this happens, even though any truce between all of "you" is not mentioned to other players through the chatbox in a game. Glad all of this was cleared up. People are free to believe whomever they want on this issue. However... when this behavior continues when "you" and "longhair" sit at the same table, they will be able to make there own conclusions on the truth. |
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Vohaul wrote
at 2:26 PM, Saturday May 12, 2007 EDT Vohaul's lie eh? What lie is that exactly?
That you identify yourself as mike@in-russia as a comment in Longhair's profile as Longhair himself? http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4813/mike4ix0.gif Or maybe it was a one word response to a "mike@in-russia" comment, even though just your name was the only comment... and no comment below your name was listed http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/1421/mike7oy7.gif Obviously nothing to these "lies", even though the comment has suddenly been deleted from your.. I mean "Longhair's" profile. I mean after all, why be ashamed of the truth right? Or maybe myself, Ghostface, and Dice-K are liars when it was noticed that not only did you and your alt not hit ever each other... but also attacked both the leaders and flagged players to ensure 1st and 2nd in multiple games. Or maybe the fact that a truce between you "two" was never mentioned in the chatbox at any point in the multiple games is a lie? So lets recap your truth: 1. Longhair is not your alternate even though "he" posts only your name there as an ID, and not as a response to one of your comments below. 2. This concept is so far off base that the comment has been erased at the time of this reply. 3. These identities are not used to PGA, even though you not only never attack each other, but attack other players in order to get 1st and 2nd, and that this happens in multiple games. 4. Not a PGA when this happens, even though any truce between all of "you" is not mentioned to other players through the chatbox in a game. Glad all of this was cleared up. People are free to believe whomever they want on this issue. However... when this behavior continues when "you" and "longhair" sit at the same table, they will be able to make there own conclusions on the truth. |
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mike@in-russia wrote
at 2:39 PM, Saturday May 12, 2007 EDT something happened with 2 answers to my post. Unfortunately i cannon read them. Some "Fatal Error" :(
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JDizzle787 wrote
at 10:12 PM, Saturday May 12, 2007 EDT Well, mike, that was a huge debate on the PGA thread, that friends and PGAs thing. I don't consider it PGA, because I use the example of my brother. I'm not going to friggin' attack my bro. No way I'm going to deprive my brother of having a good game.
It's an acceptable form of PGA. why, unless it comes down to you or them, should you go after one you have a bond with, no matter how small or basic, and one you recognize. This does end up for undesireable outcomes for non-friends, who may go from 1st to 4th in a game because of said bond. Yet, friends matter most, and, as long as there is an appropriate apology, such as yours to longhairs, or just a citation of the friend thing, you can all come away alright. |
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AleaIactaSunt wrote
at 7:00 AM, Sunday May 13, 2007 EDT I love useless threads, and I even more love supporting them. So here I go:
Ever since I heard his majesty's (MadWilly) whispered words of wisdom, they guide me through life: "don't feed the troll". I don't think anyone would've changed his/her ingame behaviour because of all that stupid PGA-talk. My opinion about that might be known anyway. At least the good players won't make emotional choices - it just doesn't make sense to give up your only way of influence in a game of luck. 2ndly and more important: "And after that he behaved not like man. He behaved like noisy woman." PLEASE, join the 21st century! It's fun around here - It was a couraged decision, but hey, we do think men and women are equal nowadays ;). But this forum should be about kdice so I'll stop doing politics, I know Ryan doesn't like it:). To all my friends who have the same principles as Mike: Pls hit me, if it suits you and hit me hard. Because I'll do the same and don't want to have a bad conscience about it. |
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AleaIactaSunt wrote
at 7:00 AM, Sunday May 13, 2007 EDT I love useless threads, and I even more love supporting them. So here I go:
Ever since I heard his majesty's (MadWilly) whispered words of wisdom, they guide me through life: "don't feed the troll". I don't think anyone would've changed his/her ingame behaviour because of all that stupid PGA-talk. My opinion about that might be known anyway. At least the good players won't make emotional choices - it just doesn't make sense to give up your only way of influence in a game of luck. 2ndly and more important: "And after that he behaved not like man. He behaved like noisy woman." PLEASE, join the 21st century! It's fun around here - It was a couraged decision, but hey, we do think men and women are equal nowadays ;). But this forum should be about kdice so I'll stop doing politics, I know Ryan doesn't like it:). To all my friends who have the same principles as Mike: Pls hit me, if it suits you and hit me hard. Because I'll do the same and don't want to have a bad conscience about it. |
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tsjombe wrote
at 7:30 AM, Sunday May 13, 2007 EDT you should consider writing a novel ^^.
Anyway what a forum filling fuzz. Vohaul, just quit the blaming plz, you are making a foul of yourself in my honnest opinion. grz |
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tsjombe wrote
at 7:32 AM, Sunday May 13, 2007 EDT hm, there seem to be something wrong with my previous post :S
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Ph- wrote
at 7:35 AM, Monday March 16, 2009 EDT Guys, remember mike@in-russia?
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