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Upgrade to Dominance
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Ryan wrote
at 11:16 AM, Wednesday February 28, 2007 EST
I'm happy with the dominance calculation for the most part. However, it seems to work best for the top 4 players in a game.
The biggest problem I've seen is the uncertainty of score for 5th 6th and 7th place. So I've thought of a simple solution and what to know your thoughts. Currently the first round is not counted towards dominance since it is so chaotic. I'd like to make this 5 rounds of uncounted dominance. And if you go out in the first 5 rounds then your dominance is counted as the lowest to the remaining players. This might sound like a hash penalty but I think the starting of the game is a bit too chaotic to point a real value on dominance. And it is why I think the last 3 places rating adjustments are not very stable. Thoughts? I'd like to put this in tonight if there aren't any objections. |
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no_Wolf wrote
at 11:26 AM, Wednesday February 28, 2007 EST I suppose I should go for this on the basis of 'the less dominance the better'. But, and I'm being entirely truthful here, I find it strange I can't be arsed to care. So, no objections here, I guess.
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Grunvagrr wrote
at 11:39 AM, Wednesday February 28, 2007 EST I agree for the most part, but I don't think it should apply to 5th place.
I think it should only impact 6th and 7th. Otherwise, this will cause a huge point drain in the bottom 3, which means the top 4 will score significantly higher on average. And im not sure exactly how that will change things, but it seems like the start of a problem there. 6th and 7th is my suggestion. |
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Ryan wrote
at 11:46 AM, Wednesday February 28, 2007 EST Grun, I think you misunderstand.
I'm not changing any points for 5th 6th or 7th. I'm delaying counting average size to round 5. Which means that players that go out early won't have early rounds influencing their average size. As a result the score for early knock outs will be more consistent. |
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Star Block! wrote
at 12:20 PM, Wednesday February 28, 2007 EST I like it.
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Stoudemire wrote
at 2:24 PM, Wednesday February 28, 2007 EST I think we have to give more time to evaluate that before making any change.
I think that people that play aggressive in the very beginning could be the losers of this change right? If they expand in the first 4 rounds quickly, it can happen 2 things: Be 7th or be 1st. If 7th, u won't lose too many points because u'll have dominate a bit. |
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Alpha1 wrote
at 2:48 PM, Wednesday February 28, 2007 EST so, does it mean that the 5th, 6th, and 7th players will score no points for dominance if they go out before round 5?
also, if i am correct, does it mean that, for example, players at different games who go out at, say 6th place before round 5 will receive the same score? and how do you pick round 5 as the cut off? |
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Grunvagrr wrote
at 3:09 PM, Wednesday February 28, 2007 EST I understood it to mean that if someone goes out 7th, sometime before the 5th round, then they will get - points for 7th place, and be counted as the worst dominance.
So this will penalize 5th-7th greatly. As a result - this will cause more points to be available to the top 4 players, or so I am guessing. That's all. |
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Alpha1 wrote
at 3:35 PM, Wednesday February 28, 2007 EST so is it true that, in all games, the 'place' score would be the same for all 6th place player who is gone before the 5th round, correct? but the dominance score (and thus the total score) would be different becasue the lowest dominance score in each game is different?
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Star Block! wrote
at 3:40 PM, Wednesday February 28, 2007 EST i think everyone has an AS of 0 until round 5 starts
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ebrake wrote
at 3:40 PM, Wednesday February 28, 2007 EST I think its a great idea that will clean up a lot of the issues in second round loses.
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